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Old 12-10-2009, 10:27 AM
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This is what a horse's retirement SHOULD look like and if Owners and Trainers can't make the financial commitment or spend the time to provide for or guarantee their well being, then they shouldn't be in the game.

Thnx to Ryan for posting in Dee Tee

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Old 12-10-2009, 10:48 AM
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Great news..
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:25 PM
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:42 PM
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Chuckles is right. If a trainer gives away or sells a horse very cheap to someone who they believe is going to retrain it and it ends up at a killer auction or feedlot, is he to blame?

Many small outfits do take horses for retraining but they are not rescues they are businesses hoping to sell for a profit. They are usually small farms and don't have the ability to provide a permanent home. If a sore horse doesn't come sound enough to go into work or a horse proves unfit for retraining, they have to get rid of them. They don't really want to send them "away" but most don't have the choice, they cannot care for them all.

Using terms like "undirectly" is very vaque when you announce a "zero tolerance" policy. How many degrees of separation is required before a trainer is absolved of responsibility?
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:47 PM
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Chuckles is right. If a trainer gives away or sells a horse very cheap to someone who they believe is going to retrain it and it ends up at a killer auction or feedlot, is he to blame?

Many small outfits do take horses for retraining but they are not rescues they are businesses hoping to sell for a profit. They are usually small farms and don't have the ability to provide a permanent home. If a sore horse doesn't come sound enough to go into work or a horse proves unfit for retraining, they have to get rid of them. They don't really want to send them "away" but most don't have the choice, they cannot care for them all.

Using terms like "undirectly" is very vaque when you announce a "zero tolerance" policy. How many degrees of separation is required before a trainer is absolved of responsibility?
Leave your number and tell the people to call you to get the horse if things don't work out.. It's not so complicated to do the right thing
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Old 12-10-2009, 12:48 PM
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Leave your number and tell the people to call you to get the horse if things don't work out.. It's not so complicated to do the right thing
It can be part of the contract also, "If for any reason you are unable to meet your obligations in regards to said horse, you will return said horse at no cost"
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:13 PM
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It can be part of the contract also, "If for any reason you are unable to meet your obligations in regards to said horse, you will return said horse at no cost"
I doubt NY is the problem but kudos to NYRA.. When horses are running for 3k purses the kill pen cant be to far away
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:20 PM
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It can be part of the contract also, "If for any reason you are unable to meet your obligations in regards to said horse, you will return said horse at no cost"
That's a good suggestion. It's a very common contract insert in many purebred dog sales contracts, and it's rarely followed, and expensive to try and enforce in a court of law.

I get around it with my dogs by saying instead that at any time in the animals life, they return it no questions asked, I will refund the entire original purchase price. I got one dog back at 5 years of age, and I'm darn glad he came home to me and not off into the ether somewhere.

I never put that in the bill of sale for any of my own horses. I did go back after 10 years and try and find the horse I sold when going into vet school, and couldn't trace the horse. Wish I had put something like that in there, for that horse.

I think the only way to really ensure you will ever get back an animal you have sold is to always be the highest bidder.
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