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Old 12-10-2009, 01:56 AM
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The rush to provide something will undoubtedly lead to a useless report that is nonetheless used to change industry standards. For the life of me i dont understand why statistical data is being interpreted by a British vet as opposed to you know, uh, a statistician?
You are kidding, right? Or do you work for Blue Cross?
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:54 AM
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The Brittish Vet compiling stats doesn't happen to work at the University of East Anglia by any chance?
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:31 PM
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People actually complaining about, and dissing, TJC looking at the injury statistics for 84% of flat racing in North America for the past year.

Unbelievable.
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:50 PM
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People actually complaining about, and dissing, TJC looking at the injury statistics for 84% of flat racing in North America for the past year.

Unbelievable.
Not that shocking, actually, when you consider the kinds of things the researchers have reported thus far:

After months of monitoring in Hong Kong, they have identified some significant risk factors for horses that are at risk for suffering a bowed tendon.

Number 1 risk factor?

Previous bowed tendon.

Dig deeper, Dr. Watson...
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Not that shocking, actually, when you consider the kinds of things the researchers have reported thus far:

After months of monitoring in Hong Kong, they have identified some significant risk factors for horses that are at risk for suffering a bowed tendon.

Number 1 risk factor?

Previous bowed tendon.

Dig deeper, Dr. Watson...
What's your point? You think objective research into the health and safety of the TB racehorse is wasted? Useless?

No wonder this industry is falling apart from the inside out.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:03 PM
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What's your point? You think objective research into the health and safety of the TB racehorse is wasted? Useless?

No wonder this industry is falling apart from the inside out.
Are you on you on your high horse or a high chair here?

Nobody said that the research was useless. But what sort of response do you think your going to get on a horse racing message from an ill-timed status report that let's us know they need about 5 more years before they can get viable information?

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Old 12-10-2009, 05:39 PM
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Are you on you on your high horse or a high chair here?

Nobody said that the research was useless. But what sort of response do you think your going to get on a horse racing message from an ill-timed status report that let's us know they need about 5 more years before they can get viable information?
You and Chuck are sad. Before they have even looked at what they've assembled through 2009, before they have released one iota about what they've found, the rocket scientists here have already dismissed it as premature, rushed, useless, ill-timed, and a failure.

Yeah. And I'm the crybaby? You whiners are complaining about something not even done yet. Pre-emptive dismissal.

The laughable part is that if they didn't release anything, the whiners would be complaining they are hiding something, it's a waste of time, it's useless, etc.

Yup. No wonder this industry is eating itself apart from the inside out.
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