SYMPOSIUM: Horsemen, jocks at odds on new losing mount fee increase

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Uh when the purses contractually negotiated by the horseman go up?

But the 10% stays the same , and when the purses go down the 10% stays the same. Its all relative ....I really dont think many horseman (and you may be an exception )give any thought at all to the jockey's portion when they are trying to get the purses raised.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Honu

But the 10% stays the same , and when the purses go down the 10% stays the same. Its all relative ....I really dont think many horseman (and you may be an exception )give any thought at all to the jockey's portion when they are trying to get the purses raised.

What difference does it make who was thought of? The fact is that when the purses go up the jocks get more money in the same proportion to everyone else. Why should they get more? If the purses go down they have the option to leave for greener pastures. And honestly the last 20 years in he vast majority of circuits have seen an increase in purses.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What difference does it make who was thought of? The fact is that when the purses go up the jocks get more money in the same proportion to everyone else. Why should they get more? If the purses go down they have the option to leave for greener pastures. And honestly the last 20 years in he vast majority of circuits have seen an increase in purses.

How much did you pay your gallop rider per head in say 1998? How much do you pay them now? Im sure if you were paying 10$ in 1998 and were still trying to pay that now you would be having to gallop your horses yourself.
I think the fee per mount should go up just like anything else , you dont pay a groom or hot walker what you paid them 10 years ago , not if you are being lawfull anyway. Do you still charge the same day rate as you did in 1998?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Honu

How much did you pay your gallop rider per head in say 1998? How much do you pay them now? Im sure if you were paying 10$ in 1998 and were still trying to pay that now you would be having to gallop your horses yourself.
I think the fee per mount should go up just like anything else , you dont pay a groom or hot walker what you paid them 10 years ago , not if you are being lawfull anyway. Do you still charge the same day rate as you did in 1998?

They have no one to blame except for themselves for having the same pay scale. No one said the mount fee shouldnt go up but tying it to Cost of living adjustments is seriously flawed.