Aqueduct race 9 today

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Doesn't the 6 immediately lose a length after the contact, only to come on a second time to lose by a nose. I agree it wasn't much of a bump but it sure looked like that minimal contact was enough to immediately change the 6's velocity which he recovers from and is closing at the wire.

How else could the stews justify the reversal?

Unless you want to say Bravo sold the bump for more than it was on Ramon and subtly choked the horse down, the 6 was affected by the bump how little, is open to debate, but because the 6 loses by a nose it's relevant IMO.

This is why NYRA should take a page out of California's playbook and explain DQ's to the public as they are enforced so you can at least understand why they do what they do.....

My point is that you cannot assume the 6 wins the race. The 8 may have pulled himself up because the challenger had wilted? Maybe the 8 stays on better through the wire if the 6 was engaged the whole way?

There is bumping like that in every race. If a bump like that occurs on the backside they never even look at it, right? What is the difference where the bump occurs? But there is a difference in just about everyone's eyes (with the exception of Andy who finds those gems as bad trips and hammers them next time).

Anyhow, I have no vested interest in the race but found the Dq to be much more costly to the bettor than anyone, but why should this be different than anything else that goes on?

[gales0678]

they couldn't leave this horse up after they took down kmc horse on sunday

that would have been the worst outcome

either leave both up or take both down , they couldn't leave this one up yesterday after the dq on sunday it would have been terrible inconsistent

also dominguez has to go back to the right hand withthe whip , terrible job only using his left hand in the stretch drive

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by gales0678

they couldn't leave this horse up after they took down kmc horse on sunday

that would have been the worst outcome

either leave both up or take both down , they couldn't leave this one up yesterday after the dq on sunday it would have been terrible inconsistent

also dominguez has to go back to the right hand withthe whip , terrible job only using his left hand in the stretch drive

the 6 horse came in 3 or 4 paths himself to get where he was.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by gales0678

they couldn't leave this horse up after they took down kmc horse on sunday

that would have been the worst outcome

either leave both up or take both down , they couldn't leave this one up yesterday after the dq on sunday it would have been terrible inconsistent

also dominguez has to go back to the right hand withthe whip , terrible job only using his left hand in the stretch drive

So bad calls are ok? This was disgraceful. I'd love to know what Andy,Byk, Haskins, have to say. Maybe I watched the wrong race

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

they couldn't leave this horse up after they took down kmc horse on sunday

that would have been the worst outcome

either leave both up or take both down , they couldn't leave this one up yesterday after the dq on sunday it would have been terrible inconsistent

also dominguez has to go back to the right hand withthe whip , terrible job only using his left hand in the stretch drive

Not for anything Gales, I thought that Ramon had the whip in his right hand, but the horse was getting out anyway. I'll have to watch it again when I get home.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Not for anything Gales, I thought that Ramon had the whip in his right hand, but the horse was getting out anyway. I'll have to watch it again when I get home.

Just watched it again Marty. Ramon hit him a total of 4 times in the lane. Two at the top of the stretch left handed and then twice between the 1/16 pole and the wire right handed. When he initially started to drift he changed the stick to the other hand, he didn't constantly hit him left handed. He did nothing wrong.