Oak Tree renames the Lady's Secret the Zenyatta

alphanumeric1 · #1 11-25-2009, 11:02 PM

Zenyatta should come out of retirement (if she really is retired) and win the Grade 1 Zenyattta next year. It will be the first time a horse has won a race named after themselves. Then if she goes to Churchill and wins the Classic next year, we should go back in time and award her the HOY for both 2009 and 2010.

ateamstupid · #2 11-25-2009, 11:07 PM

This is an easy one. Just rename the Kentucky Oaks the Rachel Alexandra iz Hella Awesome!!!1!11!! Stakes. That should one-up these whores.

Seriously, what a bunch of jokers behind this horse. Mike Smith says she's even better on the dirt. Whoever was conducting the interview should've given that toolbox a swirlie right then and there.

copying · #3 11-25-2009, 11:13 PM

[quote=ateamstupid]This is an easy one. Just rename the Kentucky Oaks the Rachel Alexandra iz Hella Awesome!!!1!11!! Stakes. That should one-up these whores.

Seriously, what a bunch of jokers behind this horse. Mike Smith says she's even better on the dirt. Whoever was conducting the interview should've given that toolbox a swirlie right then and there.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I suppose you know better than the jockey that's been on her all her life.

ateamstupid · #4 11-25-2009, 11:15 PM

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Yeah, I suppose you know better than the jockey that's been on her all her life.

So why did they ship her out of California to run on dirt all of one time? To cut down on travel costs? Give me an effing break. It's completely hollow hyperbole and if you see it as anything else I've got a bridge to sell you.

copying · #5 11-25-2009, 11:44 PM

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So why did they ship her out of California to run on dirt all of one time? To cut down on travel costs? Give me an effing break. It's completely hollow hyperbole and if you see it as anything else I've got a bridge to sell you.

She ran her 2nd best race on the dirt. At least on the synthetics, they have a chance of sneaking away from her if she gets a bad trip. On the dirt, her competitors have no chance. She's already shown that!

NTamm1215 · #6 11-25-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by copying

She ran her 2nd best race on the dirt. At least on the synthetics, they have a chance of sneaking away from her if she gets a bad trip. On the dirt, her competitors have no chance. She's already shown that!

Actually you have that backwards. She would have had a very, very difficult time winning a race like the Clement Hirsch at Del Mar if it had been run on dirt.

I also don't believe for a second that she would have been better on dirt.

NT

copying · #7 11-26-2009, 12:41 AM

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Actually you have that backwards. She would have had a very, very difficult time winning a race like the Clement Hirsch at Del Mar if it had been run on dirt.

I also don't believe for a second that she would have been better on dirt.

NT

Zenyatta's winning margin last 9 synthetics races: 1 1/4, hd, 2 1/2, 1 3/4, 1 1/2, 3 1/2, 1, 1/2.

Her lone dirt race: 4 1/2 lengths - then another 3 1/2 back to Ginger Punch.

I only have her last 10 races.

ateamstupid · #8 11-26-2009, 12:01 AM

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She ran her 2nd best race on the dirt. At least on the synthetics, they have a chance of sneaking away from her if she gets a bad trip. On the dirt, her competitors have no chance. She's already shown that!

I.. I honestly don't know how to respond to this. This is worse than what Smith said.

chucklestheclown · #9 11-26-2009, 12:08 AM

I.. I honestly don't know how to respond to this. This is worse than what Smith said.

CSC · #10 11-26-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This is an easy one. Just rename the Kentucky Oaks the Rachel Alexandra iz Hella Awesome!!!1!11!! Stakes. That should one-up these whores.

Seriously, what a bunch of jokers behind this horse. Mike Smith says she's even better on the dirt. Whoever was conducting the interview should've given that toolbox a swirlie right then and there.

If Rachel can win the BC Classic next year assuming that her campaign doesn't end in Aug-Sept, then maybe she can have a race named after her also. This renaming of races is alot of nonsense to me anyway, I don't think this cheapens Lady's Secret legacy to any knowledgable race fan, there are many races that have been renamed and while I would have kept the name of the race the way it was, I am not getting worked up over it, this just seems to be another way to pile to take shots at Zenyatta by her naysayers. I'm going to file this one away when Rachel has a race named after her and if the circumstances are simliar will there be the same vociferous objections.

Danzig · #11 11-26-2009, 12:54 PM

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If Rachel can win the BC Classic next year assuming that her campaign doesn't end in Aug-Sept, then maybe she can have a race named after her also. This renaming of races is alot of nonsense to me anyway, I don't think this cheapens Lady's Secret legacy to the knowledgable race fans, there are many races that have been renamed and while I would have kept the name of the race the way it was, I am not getting worked up over it, this just seems to be another way to pile to take shots at Zenyatta by her naysayers. I'm going to file it away when Rachel has a race named after her and if the circumstances are simliar will there be the same vociferous objections.

if they renamed the honeybee, the martha washington or the fantasy, i wouldn't care. but if they took away say, the personal ensign and renamed it, i would definitely have a problem. as was said above, it's not zen getting a race-it's lady's secret losing one.

CSC · #12 11-26-2009, 12:57 PM

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if they renamed the honeybee, the martha washington or the fantasy, i wouldn't care. but if they took away say, the personal ensign and renamed it, i would definitely have a problem. as was said above, it's not zen getting a race-it's lady's secret losing one.

You have to admit, if a race was renamed after Rachel Alexandra alot of these same bashers would probably stand and applaud it.

brianwspencer · #13 11-26-2009, 01:01 PM

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You have to admit, if a race was renamed after Rachel Alexandra alot of these same bashers would probably stand and applaud it.

Way to totally miss the point.

randallscott35 · #14 11-26-2009, 01:02 PM

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You have to admit, if a race was renamed after Rachel Alexandra alot of these same bashers would probably stand and applaud it.

Not true. They shouldn't be naming a race after a horse who retired a few weeks ago. I would be against it if it was for Rachel as well. Try again.

CSC · #15 11-26-2009, 01:12 PM

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Not true. They shouldn't be naming a race after a horse who retired a few weeks ago. I would be against it if it was for Rachel as well. Try again.

Why do I find that hard to believe?

Danzig · #16 11-26-2009, 01:02 PM

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You have to admit, if a race was renamed after Rachel Alexandra alot of these same bashers would probably stand and applaud it.

i doubt it. everyone has been pretty consistent about renaming races and getting angered by it. the la troienne immediately comes to mind, as does the sir barton being renamed the barbaro-and we all know how popular barbaro was/is. you're projecting since anything regarding zenyatta seems to make you immediately on the defensive. this has nothing to do with which is better, and has everything to do with lady's secret getting the boot.

CSC · #17 11-26-2009, 01:09 PM

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i doubt it. everyone has been pretty consistent about renaming races and getting angered by it. the la troienne immediately comes to mind, as does the sir barton being renamed the barbaro-and we all know how popular barbaro was/is. you're projecting since anything regarding zenyatta seems to make you immediately on the defensive. this has nothing to do with which is better, and has everything to do with lady's secret getting the boot.

Not really, I'm bored.

But For argument's sake:

Lady's Secret raced once at SA winning the Distaff.

Zenyatta has won 2 BC and 2 LS's and created history by being the 1st filly/mare to win the Classic all at SA.

Though as I stated renaming races is alot to do about nothing to me, if they were to rename a race, this one is not outrageous by any means by what she accomplished at SA. From a historical standpoint she has had alot more memorable monents at SA than LS did.

It's not like they are renaming the Lady's Secret the Lethal Heat Stakes.