McLaughlin with 3 positives; Gets 30 day ban..

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I never said you didn't know anything just not everything. If you can suggest that Dutrow isn't an outstanding trainer then you certainly don't know much about him or his capabilities. Lot's of people work in the industry. lots of us have all have the same type contacts as yourself. While we all KNOW you work in the industry it doesn't mean you are the industry.

Good luck racing in the wild wild west (Philly Park). I will be rooting for you always do why wouldnt I? Bring your A vet because when slot dollars are on the table lots of people are trying to gain every edge to get them. That doesn't necessarily mean they are cheating just means they are making there horses as fast as possible within the rules.
You are entitled to your opinion unfortunately because you work in the industry doesnt mean it is always correct. Nor does it mean you shouldnt be open to others.

With all due respect Freddy what exactly do you know about who or what i may know? you think Philly Park is the wild west? I am a vet of the yonkers/Roosevelt wars. That was the wild west. These guys are just cheaters.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

With all due respect Freddy what exactly do you know about who or what i may know? you think Philly Park is the wild west? I am a vet of the yonkers/Roosevelt wars. That was the wild west. These guys are just cheaters.

Ding ding ding. Most of the good stuff originated in harness racing.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

With all due respect Freddy what exactly do you know about who or what i may know? you think Philly Park is the wild west? I am a vet of the yonkers/Roosevelt wars. That was the wild west. These guys are just cheaters.

So I didnt see MR AAA or know what was going on in harness racing.. I spent twice as much time as you at harness tracks and the back stretchs I lived harness racing from the time I was 10 for 15 years I did nothing but hang out with the biggest FN crooks in the business. I was betting for Rene Poulin when I was 18 years old, .. You really do think it's all about you its amazing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So I didnt see MR AAA or know what was going on in harness racing.. I spent twice as much time as you at harness tracks and the back stretchs I lived harness racing from the time I was 10 for 15 years I did nothing but hang out with the biggest FN crooks in the business. I was betting for Rene Poulin when I was 18 years old, .. You really do think it's all about you its amazing.

then what is your excuse for not seemingly having a clue about what is really going on? How can anyone know if Dutrow is a good horseman without taking an edge since he has ALWAYS took an edge?

Would Barry Bonds have hit 70 HR's without the clear? He was never "officially" sanctioned so should we believe it was just his natural talent and good genes that allowed him to carry on into his 40's? the difference is we have a pretty good idea of barry's skill sets PRIOR to Balco. We dont have such a period with Dutrow do we? And why do his horses do better when he isnt around or in touch?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

then what is your excuse for not seemingly having a clue about what is really going on? How can anyone know if Dutrow is a good horseman without taking an edge since he has ALWAYS took an edge?

Would Barry Bonds have hit 70 HR's without the clear? He was never "officially" sanctioned so should we believe it was just his natural talent and good genes that allowed him to carry on into his 40's? the difference is we have a pretty good idea of barry's skill sets PRIOR to Balco. We dont have such a period with Dutrow do we? And why do his horses do better when he isnt around or in touch?

So Dutrow's only success has come from meds. LOL stop now its getting embarassing.. I guess Kiaran, Pletcher Assmussen who else should we toss in the nothing without a needle pile?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So Dutrow's only success has come from meds. LOL stop now its getting embarassing.. I guess Kiaran, Pletcher Assmussen who else should we toss in the nothing without a needle pile?

What period of their training careers were they not using an edge? No one is saying that they are idiots. But trying to disregard the stain of drugs on these guys reputations makes it hard for some of us to declare them the geniuses that you seem to want to annoint them as.

[Scav]

If you want to crown em, crown their asses

[golfer]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So I didnt see MR AAA or know what was going on in harness racing.. I spent twice as much time as you at harness tracks and the back stretchs I lived harness racing from the time I was 10 for 15 years I did nothing but hang out with the biggest FN crooks in the business. I was betting for Rene Poulin when I was 18 years old, .. You really do think it's all about you its amazing.

That was you? We used to follow some guy up to the windows we thought was betting for Poulin at the Meadowlands.