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Old 11-24-2009, 04:33 PM
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I understand where you are coming from. There will never be absolute certainty. But many of the people we refer to are guilty, are known within the industry as being guilty yet they hide behind the standard excuses. And the real shame is that many of them walk around with a smuggness because they are using what isnt being tested for and they know it. The really sad thing is that the vast majority of the trainers do play by the rules.
Why wouldnt you use a drug that improves your horses performance and is LEGAL, if it doesn't endanger the welfare of the animal?
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:37 PM
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Why wouldnt you use a drug that improves your horses performance and is LEGAL, if it doesn't endanger the welfare of the animal?
Like what?
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:40 PM
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Like what?
You told Eric that guys are running horses on stuff that isnt being tested for? Well if it isnt illegal and it works and makes your horse faster because the horse feels better..........AND?
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:45 PM
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You told Eric that guys are running horses on stuff that isnt being tested for? Well if it isnt illegal and it works and makes your horse faster because the horse feels better..........AND?
Just because they dont have a test for something doesnt mean that it isnt illegal. Despite what all your sources tell you. In KY any non-naturally occuring substance that isnt on the approved list is considered illegal. The idea behind the rule is in theory they are going to go back and retest the old samples and using newly found drugs and nail the trainers under a blanket rule. Of course the chance of frozen samples being retested are slim at best.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:56 PM
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Just because they dont have a test for something doesnt mean that it isnt illegal. Despite what all your sources tell you. In KY any non-naturally occuring substance that isnt on the approved list is considered illegal. The idea behind the rule is in theory they are going to go back and retest the old samples and using newly found drugs and nail the trainers under a blanket rule. Of course the chance of frozen samples being retested are slim at best.
Who races in KY other then Keeneland who would cheat at CD who would race at CD? If Ken McPeek is willing to win every race at Keeneland because he knows there is a drug that helps his horses FEEL better and run faster and the drug is NOT illegal that makes him a cheater? Why because in 2016 it will be illegal..Your serious right?? Good Luck Chuck hope you get a Rachel type soon.

So let me get this right there are a bunch of meds out there that work really well, make your stock feel better, doesnt endanger there lives, and is perfectly legal currently because they arent testing for it and havent declared it illegal yet you wont use it because they may declare it illegal in 2019.. I use organic milk as well..lol
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:01 PM
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Who races in KY other then Keeneland who would cheat at CD who would race at CD? If Ken McPeek is willing to win every race at Keeneland because he knows there is a drug that helps his horses FEEL better and run faster and the drug is NOT illegal that makes him a cheater? Why because in 2016 it will be illegal..Your serious right?? Good Luck Chuck hope you get a Rachel type soon.

So let me get this right there are a bunch of meds out there that work really well, make your stock feel better, doesnt endanger there lives, and is perfectly legal currently because they arent testing for it and havent declared it illegal yet you wont use it because they may declare it illegal in 2019.. I use organic milk as well..lol
No Freddy, it is illegal now! It doesnt become illegal when they discover it.

If you cheat on your wife but dont get caught for awhile does that mean you werent really cheating on her?
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:08 PM
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No Freddy, it is illegal now! It doesnt become illegal when they discover it.

If you cheat on your wife but dont get caught for awhile does that mean you werent really cheating on her?

Well they arent testing for it and are hiding behide ANYTHING that isnt NATURALLY OCCURRING.. get off the soap box nothing in a horse is natural..Whats so natural about gastroguard or anyfriggin daily friigin meds?
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