Get out says this guy

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Honu

Because they arent citizens.....they should be tried in a military court , they should not be given the same rights as say a regular killer. Just because it all happened at two buildings doesnt make it any diffirent than when The Japs bombed Pearl Harbor. What we should have done and our mistake was to not just drop some bombs in Saudi Arabia , Iran, Iraq , Afghanistan, Pakistan and any other sand flea infested country that had anything to do with it .

How do you feel about information extraction methods? Do you agree with torture?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How do you feel about information extraction methods? Do you agree with torture?

I dont feel one way or the other about .....Im not in the "get information out of the bad guy " business , if I were I wouldnt give them ice cream and ask them please tell me something, that is for sure.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Honu

I dont feel one way or the other about .....Im not in the "get information out of the bad guy " business , if I were I wouldnt give them ice cream and ask them please tell me something, that is for sure.

Interesting. You want to tri them under the rules of war but you don't want to give them the same rights that the geneva convention would provide. I am not saying one way or the other is right but it would seem that it should be one way or the other. No?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Interesting. You want to tri them under the rules of war but you don't want to give them the same rights that the geneva convention would provide. I am not saying one way or the other is right but it would seem that it should be one way or the other. No?

according to geneva convention rules, they are being held appropriately from what i've read. geneva does not grant foreign soldiers civilian trials.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig

according to geneva convention rules, they are being held appropriately from what i've read. geneva does not grant foreign soldiers civilian trials.

I wasnt saying that. I was responding to his statement that geneva convention rules do not apply. That is the part that is not accurate.

And Snyder does suck!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I wasnt saying that. I was responding to his statement that geneva convention rules do not apply. That is the part that is not accurate.

And Snyder does suck!

i wasn't disagreeing with you, but was adding to what you had posted.

and yeah, he does!

[Honu]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Interesting. You want to tri them under the rules of war but you don't want to give them the same rights that the geneva convention would provide. I am not saying one way or the other is right but it would seem that it should be one way or the other. No?

No.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Honu

No.

interesting. you can't call it a war, treat them as enemy soldiers, and then not follow the geneva conventions. we signed it, we have to follow it. now, if you contend they aren't soldiers, but are criminals, we would then not treat them as combatants and they would be due a day in our criminal courts.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig

interesting. you can't call it a war, treat them as enemy soldiers, and then not follow the geneva conventions. we signed it, we have to follow it. now, if you contend they aren't soldiers, but are criminals, we would then not treat them as combatants and they would be due a day in our criminal courts.

Perfectaly stated!

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

interesting. you can't call it a war, treat them as enemy soldiers, and then not follow the geneva conventions. we signed it, we have to follow it. now, if you contend they aren't soldiers, but are criminals, we would then not treat them as combatants and they would be due a day in our criminal courts.

I never contended they were criminals , if you look at my post I said clearly they had declared war on us. I said they should not be treated as regular killers.....I never said they werent soldiers , in fact I stated we should have bombed all their countries. The f****ers want us all dead , I wish we really would have just let our men in the field blow them away.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Honu

I never contended they were criminals , if you look at my post I said clearly they had declared war on us. I said they should not be treated as regular killers.....I never said they werent soldiers , in fact I stated we should have bombed all their countries. The f****ers want us all dead , I wish we really would have just let our men in the field blow them away.

But that is the point. If you are saying that they are soldiers, we would have to treat them like soldiers and respect the rules of the geneva convention. You can't have it both ways.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Interesting. You want to tri them under the rules of war but you don't want to give them the same rights that the geneva convention would provide. I am not saying one way or the other is right but it would seem that it should be one way or the other. No?

You have been spending too much time handicapping

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You have been spending too much time handicapping

Exactaly!