US Best Health Care in the World because of Siamese Twins?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by joeydb

But you appear to be an advocate for radically changing the healthcare industry. Did I misread you? The burden of proof is on you to illustrate that the current situation is inadequate.

We do not have a "healthcare system". We have a marketplace. Just as we do not have a "food distribution system", we have supermarkets. We do not have a "automobile distribution system", we have car dealerships.

It is the same, though the product, healthcare, is much more important than driving a car.

LOL...Find the post where I make that claim...Please. I havent given an opinion. I certainly havent made any baseless claims.

You have which you obviously can't support. And thats fine. I just think its small to make the claim "the US has the best healthcare system period" without really knowing what you are talking about. I certainly don't know enough about it to make a claim either way.

Your views are libertarian. There is nothing wrong with that. But if you are indeed a libertarian, you should hate the current "right" just as much as it seems you hate the current "left". Thats for sure.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Your views are libertarian. There is nothing wrong with that. But if you are indeed a libertarian, you should hate the current "right" just as much as it seems you hate the current "left". Thats for sure.

Actually, we may have found the first thing we agree on. Yes, I definitely have some libertarian views. Those overlap a lot with fiscal conservative views. I am not a religious conservative.

I don't "hate" either side. But I guess I do get a little torqued that currently, being in Pennsylvania, I have solid blue representation President, 2 Senators, one Governor, and Congresspeople in the region, who are dismissive of anything BUT extreme left views. Then the press is so desperate to prop up this president and congress that the coverage is very warped.

Just common sense: How can they pass a $787 billion dollar stimulus plan without doing the math of "how much total debt is a good idea?" "When will we REPAY the debt?"

And to consider spending another trillion dollars to takeover the health care industry, which many people disagree with, how do you finance that? Even the "developing country" we are borrowing $1 trillion from (that sounds ridiculous doesn't it) is questioning our ability to repay it.

None of the government people, Republican or Democrat or Independent, have noticed that leaving debt for future generations amounts to indentured servitude. Many people, I think rightly, would view indentured servitude as having been outlawed by the 13th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

It is libertarian, and not hostile to either conservatives or liberals, to say that if the budget was balanced and debts repaid, and laissez faire economics being the rule and not the exception, that Americans would be the most free to pursue their dreams.

If a business or an individual cannot borrow indefinitely without being cut off and having a day of reckoning, why can a government? Just because it can print more money and take from the citizens through the mechanism of inflation? That doesn't seem like a good reason to me, and I would bet that a lot of people haven't put that all together yet.