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11-15-2009, 02:30 PM
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RA has to do alot in the future to erase what Zenyatta did in her broad picture of races. Zenyatta is a closer that managed to retire undefeated and overcome all pace conditions that were thrown at her and finished by beating the males in the Breeders Cup Classic at 1 1/4 miles which at this point RA is suspect without getting weight. Yes she has alot to overcome in her 4 year old campain. Lets revisit it this time next year after RA has picked her spots and the BC is on dirt. Will she still be the same world beater that alot of people think she is, or will she be the great 3 yo Filly she was. 
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11-15-2009, 03:20 PM
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i don't think so. i find it amazing that much of the arguments for the one could be made for the other. but those squarely in one camp or the other don't see that. watch: zenyatta gets HOY and history remembers undefeated 3 yo rachel as the fans race horse. zenyatta has to do a lot in the future to erase what rachel did in her broad picture of races. rachel is a tactical horse that managed to go undefeated this year and overcome all pace conditions that were thrown at her and finished by beating the males in the woodward, first ever for a filly.
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11-15-2009, 03:51 PM
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ok how many of r.a s races would zen have won..1 maybee 2
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11-15-2009, 04:44 PM
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Didn't Zenyatta get weight in the BC Classic?
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11-15-2009, 07:11 PM
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11-15-2009, 10:19 PM
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How are you certain that the weight played an issue in either race? Maybe I'm missing the significance of weight. Are they like the Lifelines used on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire"? Was Calvin Borel allowed to pull out 8 1lb pieces of lead from his saddle and chuck them at Macho Again as he closed the gap? I better check the replay.
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11-16-2009, 06:32 AM
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Some clarity on Weight for Age: Weight for Age (WFA) is a term in Thoroughbred horse racing which is one of the conditions for a race. It means that a horse will carry a set weight in accordance with the Weight for Age Scale. This weight varies depending on the horse’s age, its sex, the race distance and the month of the year. Weight for age races are usually Group 1 races, races of the highest quality. WFA is a method of trying to equal out the physical progress which the average thoroughbred racehorse makes as it matures. The thoroughbred matures extremely quickly compared to the human being. By the age of two the horse has achieved 95% of its mature height and weight, and by the end of its third year it will be fully mature. To allow for this variation in maturity in the context of racing, it is necessary to express it as a function of the weight a horse will carry in a race. It is also necessary to take into account the race distance because stamina comes with maturity, and younger horses are at a greater disadvantage the further they have to run. If no allowance was made, a mature older horse would always beat a younger one.
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