Jerry Brown's letter to TDN on HOY discussion

[10 pnt move up]

I am sure its been mentioned or asked in the first three pages, but we all know that Brown advises people on horses sales, does he have a stake in this outcome?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I am sure its been mentioned or asked in the first three pages, but we all know that Brown advises people on horses sales, does he have a stake in this outcome?

Are you serious? You think he made up all that stuff so he can tout RA??

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Are you serious? You think he made up all that stuff so he can tout RA??

You dont think he has done that before?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

You dont think he has done that before?

The facts in this case are black and white

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The facts in this case are black and white

RA gets HOY and history remembers undefeated Zenyatta as the fans race horse.

RA has to do alot in the future to erase what Zenyatta did in her broad picture of races. Zenyatta is a closer that managed to retire undefeated and overcome all pace conditions that were thrown at her and finished by beating the males in the Breeders Cup Classic at 1 1/4 miles which at this point RA is suspect without getting weight.

Yes she has alot to overcome in her 4 year old campain.

Lets revisit it this time next year after RA has picked her spots and the BC is on dirt. Will she still be the same world beater that alot of people think she is, or will she be the great 3 yo Filly she was.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

RA gets HOY and history remembers undefeated Zenyatta as the fans race horse.

RA has to do alot in the future to erase what Zenyatta did in her broad picture of races. Zenyatta is a closer that managed to retire undefeated and overcome all pace conditions that were thrown at her and finished by beating the males in the Breeders Cup Classic at 1 1/4 miles which at this point RA is suspect without getting weight.

Yes she has alot to overcome in her 4 year old campain.

Lets revisit it this time next year after RA has picked her spots and the BC is on dirt. Will she still be the same world beater that alot of people think she is, or will she be the great 3 yo Filly she was.

i don't think so.


i find it amazing that much of the arguments for the one could be made for the other. but those squarely in one camp or the other don't see that.

watch:


zenyatta gets HOY and history remembers undefeated 3 yo rachel as the fans race horse.

zenyatta has to do a lot in the future to erase what rachel did in her broad picture of races. rachel is a tactical horse that managed to go undefeated this year and overcome all pace conditions that were thrown at her and finished by beating the males in the woodward, first ever for a filly.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

ok how many of r.a s races would zen have won..1 maybee 2

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Zenyatta is a closer that managed to retire undefeated and overcome all pace conditions that were thrown at her and finished by beating the males in the Breeders Cup Classic at 1 1/4 miles which at this point RA is suspect without getting weight.

If you're gonna compare the two, you have to play on a 2-way street.

Didn't Zenyatta get weight in the BC Classic?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

If you're gonna compare the two, you have to play on a 2-way street.

Didn't Zenyatta get weight in the BC Classic?

She is 1250lbs how much more can a horse weigh?lol

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

If you're gonna compare the two, you have to play on a 2-way street.

Didn't Zenyatta get weight in the BC Classic?

1 pound and she didn't need it. I beleive RA got 6 or 9 pounds which she needed to hold on.