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11-13-2009, 09:20 PM
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11-13-2009, 09:25 PM
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The argument you're trying to make could have been made in April when Dominguez was JUST an inner track specialist. He has proven this year that he can ride all over the NY circuit. The very fact that you put Bejarano and Prado ahead of Dominguez is laughable. Prado is one notch above a joke at this stage in his career. NT
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11-13-2009, 09:39 PM
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Just take a look at the Money Earned and Races Won list on the DRF page. Dominguez is third moneywise not because of Graded Stakes but because he racks up Claiming MSW and ALW wins. Gomez, Leparoux, Garcia, Desourmaux are on the list because they rack up graded stakes. Dominguez is by no means a horrible jockey but he is not a top tier rider yet.
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11-13-2009, 09:53 PM
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What Dominguez has done in NY this year is pretty impressive. Also, doesn't he have over 40 stakes wins this year? Didn't he win a few big races aboard Gio Ponti? He won a few with Fabulous Strike too, right? I just don't know what point you are trying to make. Sure he's not Gomez, but then again who is. If Ramon went out there he is in the top 3 immediately. And all of a sudden Mike Smith is Eddie Arcaro? I remember a couple of years ago, Mike Smith off was a betting angle. But I guess Zenyatta has single handily brought him off that list.
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11-13-2009, 09:53 PM
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He had a good Derby mount this year in Desert Party and hopefully his Derby mounts will get better going forward (although staying in NY is not gonna help). He didn't have a great deal of good BC mounts because he doesn't have a big barn for which he's a 1st call rider. He had a chance with a horse like Dublin but he flopped in the Champagne. He's also in NY full-time for the first time. He's absolutely a top tier rider. Without question. NT
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11-13-2009, 09:55 PM
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I will have to respectfully disagree with the dominguez bashers. I have been watching Ramon for years and if he isnt a top jockey at this point i dont know who is. He can ride any horse on any surface.
You would really take Mike Smith as an all around jockey at this point over Dominguez? Really?
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11-13-2009, 10:09 PM
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if smith rode gio ponti and ramon rode zenyatta you have a different winner last saturday at the bcc on the pro surface track you need to be far outside and wide coming for home , ramon got trapped inside and never gave his horse a chance to see zenyatta coming
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11-14-2009, 08:19 AM
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Dominguez's wins in Claiming races are at least as significant and maybe more significant than big stakes wins, because the claiming structure puts some kind of cap on how good the best horse in the race is. The skill of the jockey becomes relatively more important. The fact that Dominguez has dominated other jockeys at top level tracks in those races says it all, IMO. DrugS's ROI figs show that Dominguez has been hugely underrated as a factor for years. --Dunbar
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11-30-2009, 02:34 AM
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I don't know if anyone would have this statistic but I would bet that Ramon rides more repeat winners (back to back on the same horse) than any rider in the country. He is one of the only riders that consistently gears his horses down and tries to save something for their next race. I think Ramon is as smart as any rider in the country.
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11-13-2009, 10:09 PM
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Put Prado's resume and Dominguez resume in front of two people who know nothing about horse racing and they can tell you who has achieved more. Please! Even if Prado is in a slump right now, there is no way his entire career is tarnished because of it.
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11-13-2009, 10:35 PM
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11-13-2009, 09:26 PM
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Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
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