11/11 ATR: The Great HOTY Debate

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Perhaps we should beg for a new eclipse award Horse of the Moment..

I like that idea....Black Beauty for me.

[slotdirt]

There's already an ESPY for this.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

There's already an ESPY for this.

Best Performance By A Mare On Carpet Fibers----handed out by Pollard's Vision disciple Stewart Scott.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Best Performance By A Mare On Carpet Fibers----handed out by Pollard's Vision disciple Stewart Scott.

I think dissing Zenyatta is just as silly as calliing her HOY. She is a great mare and deserves a lot of credit for a wonderful career. It isn't the mares fault that her connections precluded her from racing in NY against competition befitting her abilty. It is what it is lets move on to Rachel and her 4 year old campaign.

Imagine if we didn't have the mare and the filly Summer Slop would have been racings star. While he is OK UGH

[randallscott35]

Actually I wasn't dissing her at all. She is great. She isn't horse of the year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Best Performance By A Mare On Carpet Fibers----handed out by Pollard's Vision disciple Stewart Scott.

Nice!

[Cannon Shell]

Rachael Alexandra certainly had a better overall campaign than Zenyatta. I find it hard to believe that anyone would think otherwise. Beyer numbers, who would beat who, who ducked or didnt duck and the other nonsense aside, the argument should be who had the more impressive body of work in 2009 when you take a step back and look again.

You can make the case that Zenyatta's top 'moment' was slightly better than Rachaels, it certainly is more timely. But emotion or sentiment shouldn't really be a deciding factor in determining who had the superior 2009.

IMO JJ is the worst kind of hypocrite and perhaps the worlds richest phony but his horse deserves the award because she simply had a better, more complete and certainly more compelling year than Zenyatta did.

I believe circumstances have made RA's light shine a little brighter than perhaps it should have but I can't get over the fact that Zenyatta's races just weren't that good prior to her BC run. Plus my contention that this was the worst BC Classic field in it's history makes RA a clear winner.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Rachael Alexandra certainly had a better overall campaign than Zenyatta. I find it hard to believe that anyone would think otherwise. Beyer numbers, who would beat who, who ducked or didnt duck and the other nonsense aside, the argument should be who had the more impressive body of work in 2009 when you take a step back and look again.

You can make the case that Zenyatta's top 'moment' was slightly better than Rachaels, it certainly is more timely. But emotion or sentiment shouldn't really be a deciding factor in determining who had the superior 2009.

IMO JJ is the worst kind of hypocrite and perhaps the worlds richest phony but his horse deserves the award because she simply had a better, more complete and certainly more compelling year than Zenyatta did.

I believe circumstances have made RA's light shine a little brighter than perhaps it should have but I can't get over the fact that Zenyatta's races just weren't that good prior to her BC run. Plus my contention that this was the worst BC Classic field in it's history makes RA a clear winner.

It would have been a nice field for the turf classic