Now Quality Road refuses to board plane

[PatCummings]

I don't understand the need to lead horses into the gates in numerical, double-file order. If getting them in is more an issue than keeping them in, shouldn't you load the troublesome horses first instead of keeping the rest of the horses loaded? On the other hand, if you have a horse who freaks if he is in for too long...then load he/she last.

Am I missing something?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

I don't understand the need to lead horses into the gates in numerical, double-file order. If getting them in is more an issue than keeping them in, shouldn't you load the troublesome horses first instead of keeping the rest of the horses loaded? On the other hand, if you have a horse who freaks if he is in for too long...then load he/she last.

Am I missing something?

I would think it becomes a fairness issue- horses can load great, but if they stand too long they can start to relax and get caught flat-footed at the break. So I imagine trainers would start claiming their horse has to be loaded near the end, in order to take advantage of a short wait before the gates open. But that's just a guess.

Morty would probably say he was afraid to board the plane because he was seated next to GenuineCrazyLady.

Now that she's back it's only fair that Morty is welcome. Right?

[Merlinsky]

QR flat out had a nervous breakdown and now is dealing with the equine version of PTSD. I have respect for the NY gate crews, but I'm nervous about the 2 week turnaround for the Cigar Mile. I'm drawing a blank about the Euro that had to come to the US because he got banned for gate antics. They talked about him on tv. At what point can a horse get banned at one of our tracks?

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

At what point can a horse get banned at one of our tracks?

When it kills or severely injures someone from the gate crew... Am I the only one who isn't shocked when an inbred 1100+lb, high strung caged animal has a nervous breakdown when paraded in front of 75k screaming people?

Also, I am surprised those PETA fools haven't went ape **** over QR's antics...

[SuffolkGirl]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

QR flat out had a nervous breakdown and now is dealing with the equine version of PTSD. I have respect for the NY gate crews, but I'm nervous about the 2 week turnaround for the Cigar Mile. I'm drawing a blank about the Euro that had to come to the US because he got banned for gate antics. They talked about him on tv. At what point can a horse get banned at one of our tracks?

I think you are referring to Spanish Moon and he is banned in GB not all of Europe

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

I don't understand the need to lead horses into the gates in numerical, double-file order. If getting them in is more an issue than keeping them in, shouldn't you load the troublesome horses first instead of keeping the rest of the horses loaded? On the other hand, if you have a horse who freaks if he is in for too long...then load he/she last.

Am I missing something?

Most horses that dont load also act up in the gate which is in most cases more dangerous.

[Cannon Shell]

This horse should be finished for the year. Thinking that he will magically be cured by Bob Duncan in a week after driving cross-country is crazy.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This horse should be finished for the year. Thinking that he will magically be cured by Bob Duncan in a week after driving cross-country is crazy.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This horse should be finished for the year. Thinking that he will magically be cured by Bob Duncan in a week after driving cross-country is crazy.

i agree.

[richard]

Forunately a gate crew guy grabbed a reign as QR broke through the front of the gate . The crew did a good job . The horse needs time to recover .

Mathea Kelley photo per bloodhorse

[South Beach Luv]

Thought he was on his way already?


Quality Road
Your Comment:

Date: November 12, 2009
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 48:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: All Weather Track
Rank: 5/18

[Riot]

The BH article said the plan was for him to leave on the cross-country van tonight. 36 hours non-stop is the first leg in a double box stall with the groom present. Makes sense they'd let him blow out this morning.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by South Beach Luv

Thought he was on his way already?


Quality Road
Your Comment:

Date: November 12, 2009
Track: SANTA ANITA PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 48:60 Handily
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: All Weather Track
Rank: 5/18

Too bad it wasn't a gate drill...

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This horse should be finished for the year. Thinking that he will magically be cured by Bob Duncan in a week after driving cross-country is crazy.

Originally Posted by Honu

So you didnt see them when they locked arms behind him and he was full on jack kicking with both hind legs! You didnt see the part where Gilly tried to pet and move him from side to side to get him to budge.
Please step in one day and just try and get a horse to go into the gate that doesnt want to go. If you want to blame someone blame Todd Pletcher for not having the horse schooled prior to the race.
Horses and I mean fully intact male horses most often times in the morning during schooling hours stand in the gate with mare's and filly's and geldings and other studs.
I suggest you watch the whole scene , this horse wasnt going in the gate , and when they finally got him in and he relized it he really went even more over the edge.
So who do you blame for the horse not getting on the plane , the professional horse haulers that are part of the crew or the groom that was with him?
This horse was out of his mind and from what I read this isnt the first time he has been horrible at the gate. The guys that are on this gate crew in So Cali are some of the best there are anywhere , they are horseman and they did the best they could with a bad situation.

Fine work by TAP this weekend overall.

[Pedigree Ann]

I was quite struck during our year in Britain how quickly the starters over there 'dismiss' horses who don't want to go into the gate. You can keep trying while the rest of the field loads, but if the horse causes the entire field to stand more than 15 or 20 seconds, it is dispatched without him. Spanish Moon had refused to load in three different races, earning himself a ban for 6 months in Britain.