I believe the only three

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I didn't realize I was presenting in front of a court of law. It's all over the place..

The big decision leading up to the 2009 Breeders’ Cup was whether Zenyatta would take the easier route in the Ladies Classic, a race she won last year, in her quest for perfection or tackle one of the deepest Classic fields ever assembled.


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...z-one-and-only

so you go to Steve Haskin, who might as well be the leader of the pretty pony club....I am sure he is a nice guy but he is kind of like the media and Obama, he wont criticize racing.

What do guys like Crist, Beyer, etc say. It was an "ok" field.

[CSC]

BTW who did Inside Information beat in the BC, I remember her biggest competition that year was stablemate Heavenly Prize and that one had a snowball's chance on a sloppy track that day.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by CSC

BTW who did Inside Information beat in the BC, I remember her biggest competition that year was stablemate Heavenly Prize and that one had a snowball's chance on a sloppy track that day.

Lakeway, Serena's Song

basically no ones i guess

[CSC]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Lakeway, Serena's Song

basically no ones i guess

I'll give you Serena's Song only because she was a gamer that campaigned hard that won her share of races, but in fairness she also had a hard time beating Flanders and Jewell Princess when it counted, and she wasn't able to beat top males like Smart Strike in the Islin whom Cigar dismantled a race later that yr. A very good horse but she wasn't in the same class of Cigar.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Lakeway, Serena's Song

basically no ones i guess

Don't forget Mariah's Storm (the dam of Giant's Causeway) .. who soundly beat Serena's Song with a 120 Beyer two months earlier.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Don't forget Mariah's Storm (the dam of Giant's Causeway) .. who soundly beat Serena's Song with a 120 Beyer two months earlier.

She was special.

[GenuineRisk]

Like Sightseek, I've seen a lot of articles using superlatives to describe Zenyatta's challengers:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/sp...enyatta&st=cse

("As she was awaiting the start of the Breeders’ Cup Classic, against the best male horses in the world at a distance she had never run, did she suddenly not want to race?")

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...ition_in_.html

("So it was Zenyatta against the boys Saturday, a terrific bunch, a 13-horse field, 10 Grade I winners (that means they've had at least one good day).")

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...n-breeders-cup

("The end is the only place to start when considering the Breeders' Cup card at Santa Anita today. The Classic, with a purse of $5m, is, as the Americans put it, the "deepest" for years, in terms of the sheer number of high-class horses declared to run in the race.")

I saw a few deeper, deepest, strongest ones, too, but I can't find them easily.

Ah, the media. It's not enough that she was the first female to win it, and the first horse to win two different Breeders Cup races, and won Saturday after a pretty sucky start, you have to plump up the field's credentials, too?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Like Sightseek, I've seen a lot of articles using superlatives to describe Zenyatta's challengers:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/sp...enyatta&st=cse

("As she was awaiting the start of the Breeders’ Cup Classic, against the best male horses in the world at a distance she had never run, did she suddenly not want to race?")

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...ition_in_.html

("So it was Zenyatta against the boys Saturday, a terrific bunch, a 13-horse field, 10 Grade I winners (that means they've had at least one good day).")

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...n-breeders-cup

("The end is the only place to start when considering the Breeders' Cup card at Santa Anita today. The Classic, with a purse of $5m, is, as the Americans put it, the "deepest" for years, in terms of the sheer number of high-class horses declared to run in the race.")

I saw a few deeper, deepest, strongest ones, too, but I can't find them easily.

Ah, the media. It's not enough that she was the first female to win it, and the first horse to win two different Breeders Cup races, and won Saturday after a pretty sucky start, you have to plump up the field's credentials, too?

what were the better fields assembled this year?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Ah, the media. It's not enough that she was the first female to win it, and the first horse to win two different Breeders Cup races, and won Saturday after a pretty sucky start, you have to plump up the field's credentials, too?

They are amazing aren't they.

When you read a lot of that silly stuff you get from the racing press ... it's pretty easy to see why guys like Andy Beyer and Steve Crist are as great as they are.

With those two .. you're talking about guys who are both excellent writers and have a great understanding of the sport in terms of both racing and gambling.

Those two names are company I never have to worry about keeping ... because I couldn't pass a 10th grade English class and only can get hired as a small fry racing writer because of my ability in other areas.

It's the exact opposite with a lot of the guys you see writing on racing ... they're very good writers in a lot of cases ... but they don't really understand racing. Some of them out and out have no idea what they're talking about.

You do also have some that are very good writers/handicappers that have a good understanding of racing .. but have a less than stellar understanding of the betting aspect.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

She was special.

Right about now, I feel like saying that about you too.

[Indian Charlie]

Am I the only one who saw the BC classic and thought that Denman was out of his freaking mind saying what he did?

Her race certainly wasn't a bad one, but man, he went wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overboard.

I have seen much better performances than that one. Even this year I have!

[NTamm1215]

The 1995 Distaff field was pretty stacked.

http://stats.breederscup.com/bcosRac...cfm?race_id=80

NT

[Travis Stone]

Look what Forested did to the Tri payoff which would be unheard of in my opinion with longshots being overbet now-a-days in big events.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

so you go to Steve Haskin, who might as well be the leader of the pretty pony club....I am sure he is a nice guy but he is kind of like the media and Obama, he wont criticize racing.

What do guys like Crist, Beyer, etc say. It was an "ok" field.

What would you like Haskin to do?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

What would you like Haskin to do?

not be a cheerleader