East VS West The 06 Breeders Cup

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Which one of those races did Rock Hard Ten win?

Borrego won the JCGC....Pleasantly Perfect the BC Classic. What was Skimming's, repeat winner of the P Classic, deal?

If you think there is prestige to the 20 year old P Classic I think you are mikstaken.

RHT didn't win either, but I was using him as an example that winning Graded Stakes in California is respected for a stallion deal. The Strub series is a great springboard for advertisement. Won at 7 furlongs to a mile and a quarter blah, blah blah

My point is, Graded Stakes at the top tracks matter whether they are on the east coast or west coast. Combine this with a top class pedigree and most breeders are not going to care what side of the country the horse raced in. Your point of Borrego & Pleasantly Perfect embraces the fact that CA Graded Stakes winners are competitive with their east coast counterparts and are therefore recognized as so by breeders.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

RHT didn't win either, but I was using him as an example that winning Graded Stakes in California is respected for a stallion deal. The Strub series is a great springboard for advertisement. Won at 7 furlongs to a mile and a quarter blah, blah blah

My point is, Graded Stakes at the top tracks matter whether they are on the east coast or west coast. Combine this with a top class pedigree and most breeders are not going to care what side of the country the horse raced in. Your point of Borrego & Pleasantly Perfect embraces the fact that CA Graded Stakes winners are competitive with their east coast counterparts and are therefore recognized as so by breeders.

The Strub series does have some cache obviously, though Rock Hard Ten is not a great example for obvious reasons, but as for the rest of what you said....well.....it's probably basically wrong. I don't want to fight about this but you might want to look into the situation a little more.

It's not really a " what side of the country " thing....it's perceived importance of races. The East has it....the West doesn't ( in general ).

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The Strub series does have some cache obviously, though Rock Hard Ten is not a great example for obvious reasons, but as for the rest of what you said....well.....it's probably basically wrong. I don't want to fight about this but you might want to look into the situation a little more.

It's not really a " what side of the country " thing....it's perceived importance of races. The East has it....the West doesn't ( in general ).

I agree that was the case, but I think it is going to become less and less so.

[bigjag0716]

Hard to tell right now but I guarantee the west will win at least 2 races,they always do.

[SniperSB23]

There is a different style of racing out West that combined with the harder surfaces makes it difficult and more dangerous for a horse to ship out for one race. It could take a few races for a top horse to get used to those conditions so why would you bother to ship out for one race. While I agree that the Whitney and Met Mile are more prestigious to breeders than the Hollywood Gold Cup and Pacific Classic I think winning one from both coasts would carry huge weight with breeders, moreso than winning both from the same coast. As California shifts to a safer, less biased surface in polytrack I think we will see more east coast horses that have shown a liking for polytrack going west to take down the $1 million purses.

[Buffymommy]

Not to start or get into an arguement since everyone knows I love the horse, but RH10's stud deal may also have had something to do with his daddy being the "LATE" Kris S, who was a good daddy. I am not arguing anything about RH10. Just stating that his stud deal may not only have had to deal with his race record.

So don't diss my boy.