Summer Bird to Japan Cup Dirt

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Danzig

how many starts on the year? seven or eight? that's not exactly a gruelling campaign.
he can run in the japan cup and then take a nice long break before starting back next year.

i agree, plus his first few were learning experiences because he had never raced. another race is no big deal. i would be more worried about the travel and the surface. our horses seem to "flop" over there.

[Gander]

Wouldnt it be something if Summer Bird shipped back to NY and faced Quality Road (again) in the Cigar Mile?

Throw in likely starters Bribon and Vineyard Haven, possibly Kodiak Kowboy too and it would be better than any BC race we just saw. A race for the ages. Race of the year if you will.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Gander

Wouldnt it be something if Summer Bird shipped back to NY and faced Quality Road (again) in the Cigar Mile?

Throw in likely starters Bribon and Vineyard Haven, possibly Kodiak Kowboy too and it would be better than any BC race we just saw. A race for the ages. Race of the year if you will.

I don't like it, a one turn mile doesn't really fit his strengths. I really don't see much in the calendar the rest of the year that is too appealing for him, a gr.2 win in the Clark wouldn't add too much to his resume since he is pretty much assured of the 3 yr old male eclispe already. The Malabu? Not a chance, if anything the Dubai World Cup is the most interesting race down the line, the Foster if they want a longer rest for him, I can see him running well there at CD.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't like it, a one turn mile doesn't really fit his strengths. I really don't see much in the calendar the rest of the year that is too appealing for him, a gr.2 win in the Clark wouldn't add too much to his resume since he is pretty much assured of the 3 yr old male eclispe already. The Malabu? Not a chance, if anything the Dubai World Cup is the most interesting race down the line, the Foster if they want a longer rest for him, I can see him running well there at CD.

Like Summer Bird has a better chance in that race in Japan? And how many of his fans are really even going to watch that race? Him coming to Aqueduct Thanksgiving weekend for another showdown against Quality Road, hopefully this time on a fast track? Quality Road has run at distances that more favor Summer Bird, so why not run at a distance that gives QR a fighting chance?

Okay, I forgot. This isnt about the fans...its about money.

PS- I strongly disagree that Summer Bird wouldnt do well going a one turn mile.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't like it, a one turn mile doesn't really fit his strengths. I really don't see much in the calendar the rest of the year that is too appealing for him, a gr.2 win in the Clark wouldn't add too much to his resume since he is pretty much assured of the 3 yr old male eclispe already. The Malabu? Not a chance, if anything the Dubai World Cup is the most interesting race down the line, the Foster if they want a longer rest for him, I can see him running well there at CD.

i'd think his run at santa anita last saturday would put the kibosh on him going to dubai, since the new track is synthetic.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Gander

Wouldnt it be something if Summer Bird shipped back to NY and faced Quality Road (again) in the Cigar Mile?

Throw in likely starters Bribon and Vineyard Haven, possibly Kodiak Kowboy too and it would be better than any BC race we just saw. A race for the ages. Race of the year if you will.

Summer Bird would get absolutely mauled at 8 furlongs against those horses.

NT

[CSC]

Mine That Bird would be more interesting IMO.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by CSC

Mine That Bird would be more interesting IMO.

Mine that Bird more interesting in the Cigar Mile than Summer Bird would be?
How do you figure that?
What is so interesting about this horse?

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Gander

Mine that Bird more interesting in the Cigar Mile than Summer Bird would be?
How do you figure that?
What is so interesting about this horse?

Most interesting thing... how the trainer has had a broken foot for about 10 months.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Gander

Mine that Bird more interesting in the Cigar Mile than Summer Bird would be?
How do you figure that?
What is so interesting about this horse?

Off his last 2 poly races he could be dismissed at a price, I still think he could be a dangerous horse if he is ridden quietly and if he has a pace to run into... who knows maybe a mile is more his thing rather than a 1 1/4. He hasn't done much since the derby so maybe this is his time.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by CSC

Off his last 2 poly races he could be dismissed at a price, I still think he could be a dangerous horse if he is ridden quietly and if he has a pace to run into... who knows maybe a mile is more his thing rather than a 1 1/4. He hasn't done much since the derby so maybe this is his time.

Don't give Wooley any ideas... he might ride MTB all the way to NY from NM if his truck breaks down.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by CSC

Off his last 2 poly races he could be dismissed at a price, I still think he could be a dangerous horse if he is ridden quietly and if he has a pace to run into... who knows maybe a mile is more his thing rather than a 1 1/4. He hasn't done much since the derby so maybe this is his time.

I think he needs a break. We will see him back at Fairgrounds after a few months off.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

Mine That Bird would be more interesting IMO.

he's done for the year.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he's done for the year.

He was done after the derby!