HOTY: If Zenyatta wins the Classic...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I dont care how many times she raced this year or how many different tracks. I care that on the biggest day in the sport in front of the whole world she showed how GREAT she is. She beat the three year old colt of the year, the derby winner, the turf male of the year, and a couple of other multiple group 1 winners in convincing fashion.

any of us who complain that the bc has taken too much emphasis off the rest of the years racing is hoping your take on this isn't a widely held opinion. one race does not a year make.

but, truth be told, it doesn't matter to me who gets hoy. it's not like you can bet on it and get a return. but it does matter to racing how a day like yesterday can impact the entire year, and the thought processes in future years by owners and trainers. if we want top notch racing throughout the year, then you can't put this much emphasis on one day, regardless of the title of the program.

[clambeau]

just curious ...has Rachel ever raced, let alone won on the synthetic? If not then Zenyatta wins 2-1 in the "Graded Stakes Wins On Different Surfaces Between the 2 Best Fillies Of The Year"...Is there an Eclipse for that?.....Let's shorten it to the "GSWDFB2BFOY" Award.

Scary thought...someone is drawing up the plans for one right now. I hate awards and All Star games.

HALL OF FAMES - Love 'em - GOOD !

AWARDS ....Don't really care either way - N N N Not SO GOOD. (unless you win one yourself...then it's the best, man...really cool)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by clambeau

just curious ...has Rachel ever raced, let alone won on the synthetic? If not then Zenyatta wins 2-1 in the "Graded Stakes Wins On Different Surfaces Between the 2 Best Fillies Of The Year"...Is there an Eclipse for that?.....Let's shorten it to the "GSWDFB2BFOY" Award.

Scary thought...someone is drawing up the plans for one right now. I hate awards and All Star games.

HALL OF FAMES - Love 'em - GOOD !

AWARDS ....Don't really care either way - N N N Not SO GOOD. (unless you win one yourself...then it's the best, man...really cool)

yes, at two when she ran at keeneland.

[dagolfer33]

I was on the Rachel side of the Rachel vs. Zenyatta (who is the better horse) issue. However, after what I saw yesterday, I can honestly say there is no way to decipher which horse would win matched up. But horse of the year, which is an award based on what a horse did this year, should go to Rachel. I honestly believe that if it were a forethought and ambition from the beginning, Rachel could have won the triple crown. And I also believe Zenyatta can beat Rachel in the context of a normal race at classic distance with the main discrepancy obviously being the surface. But when you cancel the woulda/coulda/shouldas, Rachel wins HOY>