Va voters turn on Obama

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Trust me...the memories of Dubya will still be fresh and you know that the Dems will be pounding that point 24/7. Before we had to campaign against Reagan and Bush 1..both people I didn't personally care for, but were still very popular figures. You guys pulled Carter, Dukakis and Mondale up every chance you got back then and it worked. You can be sure we will scare the hell out of the Independants by bringing up Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ashcroft etc every chance we can. Your only hope I think is to find a non-traditional Republucan candidate that attracts Independants but doesn't push away the Religious Right. And my money is that the Republicans won't find that guy, or girl.

let me guess in 2005 , you had obama winning in '08 , you and the other 100 so called experts had him in the white house - there is time to find a viable candidate

things are worse today than when obama took office, the deficit is higher , unemployment is higher , the dollar is weaker ,oil is higher , gas px's are higher ,iraq and afgh. are more out of control than they were last year.
to an extent there is a grace peroid that the american people wil give , but , you can't just keep drumming up all "these inherited" problems you are dealing with ....the american people know that you inherited them , what do you think they are stupid and have to keep reminding them ? what the american people will judge obama on is if he improves the country and right now he is failing and his policies are failing .....where is the job creation , where is the growth in gdp (less gov't spending) , why are oil prices going up again ??? these are not bush's problems now they are obama's and i don't see him fixing them

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by gales0678

let me guess in 2005 , you had obama winning in '08 , you and the other 100 so called experts had him in the white house - there is time to find a viable candidate

things are worse today than when obama took office, the deficit is higher , unemployment is higher , the dollar is weaker ,oil is higher , gas px's are higher ,iraq and afgh. are more out of control than they were last year.
to an extent there is a grace peroid that the american people wil give , but , you can't just keep drumming up all "these inherited" problems you are dealing with ....the american people know that you inherited them , what do you think they are stupid and have to keep reminding them ? what the american people will judge obama on is if he improves the country and right now he is failing and his policies are failing .....where is the job creation , where is the growth in gdp (less gov't spending) , why are oil prices going up again ??? these are not bush's problems now they are obama's and i don't see him fixing them

Oil and Gas I'm not sure you have a leg to stand on based on where they were and where they are now. Again..we'll see in 3 1/2 years, not 10 months.

Did you really think everyone you listed would change in 10 months? I'm more upset at what hasn't changed in 10 months..

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Oil and Gas I'm not sure you have a leg to stand on based on where they were and where they are now. Again..we'll see in 3 1/2 years, not 10 months.

Did you really think everyone you listed would change in 10 months? I'm more upset at what hasn't changed in 10 months..

look at where oil was in march , gas too , explain to me how that is bush's fault again?

if it's ok to blame any president about high oil px's as was done from 04 - 08, why can't it be asked what the heck is the guy in wash dc doing about it now?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by gales0678

look at where oil was in march , gas too , explain to me how that is bush's fault again?

if it's ok to blame any president about high oil px's as was done from 04 - 08, why can't it be asked what the heck is the guy in wash dc doing about it now?

I've said in other threads that I really don't think President's should or can be held accountable for oil/gas costs. The only reason I singled out Bush is that he made it a campaign issue by stating that his close allegiances with Texas oil companies could only benefit the country. He also used it as some half assed justification for the war by stating that we will be paid back handsomly in oil for our costs incurred. Has that happened?

[joeydb]

It's funny how people will not just go down the street, handing over half of their paycheck to those who don't work, but will vote for government representatives who will do exactly that to them via the taxcode and social spending.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I've said in other threads that I really don't think President's should or can be held accountable for oil/gas costs. The only reason I singled out Bush is that he made it a campaign issue by stating that his close allegiances with Texas oil companies could only benefit the country. He also used it as some half assed justification for the war by stating that we will be paid back handsomly in oil for our costs incurred. Has that happened?

maybe you , but every liberal media outlet claimed the fix was in when oil prices shot up and that haliburton and the bush family profited directly from oil's rise

now superman is in office and oil px's are up from 50 /bbl range and not a word about it , if you think we live in a country that has an unbiased press you need to go to bellvue in nyc

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I've said in other threads that I really don't think President's should or can be held accountable for oil/gas costs. The only reason I singled out Bush is that he made it a campaign issue by stating that his close allegiances with Texas oil companies could only benefit the country. He also used it as some half assed justification for the war by stating that we will be paid back handsomly in oil for our costs incurred. Has that happened?

maybe you , but every liberal media outlet claimed the fix was in when oil prices shot up and that haliburton and the bush family profited directly from oil's rise

now superman is in office and oil px's are up from 50 /bbl range and not a word about it , if you think we live in a country that has an unbiased press you need to go to bellvue in nyc

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

things are worse today than when obama took office, the deficit is higher , unemployment is higher , the dollar is weaker ,oil is higher , gas px's are higher ,iraq and afgh. are more out of control than they were last year.

The Great Recession did not turn into the Second Great Depression, the economy is turning around, troops are being brought home from Iraq and that is being winded down, troops were immediately boostered in Afghanistan, major kills against Taliban, and you received a tax cut this year.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Great Recession did not turn into the Second Great Depression, the economy is turning around, troops are being brought home from Iraq and that is being winded down, troops were immediately boostered in Afghanistan, major kills against Taliban, and you received a tax cut this year.

where ? if you take out cash for clunkers gdp growth was negative , just where is it that the economy is turning around?

tax cuts??? please expound on that one , everyone's taxes are going up after 2010 when the bush tax cuts expire

2 wars are still being fought with only the finish line showing for one of them

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

where ? if you take out cash for clunkers gdp growth was negative , just where is it that the economy is turning around?

tax cuts??? please expound on that one , everyone's taxes are going up after 2010 when the bush tax cuts expire

2 wars are still being fought with only the finish line showing for one of them

The economy has stopped it's crash, and is turning around, albeit very slowly. It's a huge barge, not a speedboat <g>

You received a tax cut, already in paychecks, this spring, from this administration.

Yes, there are two wars, and yes, a finish line is showing in Iraq. That's exactly what Obama was elected to do.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

The economy has stopped it's crash, and is turning around, albeit very slowly. It's a huge barge, not a speedboat <g>

You received a tax cut, already in paychecks, this spring, from this administration.

Yes, there are two wars, and yes, a finish line is showing in Iraq. That's exactly what Obama was elected to do.

and what is going to happen next year (2011) to everyone ?????

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

and what is going to happen next year (2011) to everyone ?????

Regarding the expiration of the Bush tax cuts? I don't know. Do you?

Are we just supposed to go ahead and blame Obama now for "something" that may or may not happen in the future, but we know we don't like ?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

Regarding the expiration of the Bush tax cuts? I don't know. Do you?

Are we just supposed to go ahead and blame Obama now for "something" that may or may not happen in the future, but we know we don't like ?

it's going to happen , that was part of the campaign promoise to roll back all the bush tax cuts .....all rates will go back to there 2001 levels , that means every working american will pay a higher tax rate in 2011 than in 2010

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

The economy has stopped it's crash, and is turning around, albeit very slowly. It's a huge barge, not a speedboat <g>

You received a tax cut, already in paychecks, this spring, from this administration.

Yes, there are two wars, and yes, a finish line is showing in Iraq. That's exactly what Obama was elected to do.

I think if you told people you were Liberal and not pretended to say you are GOP, you wouldnt be so pathetic on here. You are Liberal through and through and maybe even more liberal than most on this site... you should embrace that instead of have people laugh you off because you claim to be GOP. then maybe your opinion would be worth more than a grain of salt!

btw, you should definately be on Obama's PR staff.

just my opinion of course. have a nice day

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think if you told people you were Liberal and not pretended to say you are GOP, you wouldnt be so pathetic on here. You are Liberal through and through and maybe even more liberal than most on this site... you should embrace that instead of have people laugh you off because you claim to be GOP. then maybe your opinion would be worth more than a grain of salt!

btw, you should definately be on Obama's PR staff.

just my opinion of course. have a nice day

Hey, if, instead of talking about politics, it makes you feel more worthwhile or important to try and insult other people by calling them names on a message board, go right ahead. I'm happy to help you try and deal with your self-esteem issues.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Hey, if, instead of talking about politics, it makes you feel more worthwhile or important to try and insult other people by calling them names on a message board, go right ahead. I'm happy to help you try and deal with your self-esteem issues.

Why thank you ms. pelosi!

Maybe they should add Internet Venting to the Health bill cause it helps ward off mental collapses. If you dont vent on the internet at least 15 times per year, you are charged a fine! It will save premiums down the line!