Va voters turn on Obama

[SCUDSBROTHER]

CNN projects Democrat Bill Owens wins in New York's 23rd congressional district, defeating Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. That was a safe seat for a moderate Republican, but they tried to force their more Conservative views on people of this district. Gales, how many Congressman from your State of New York are Republicans? Down to 2 now?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

CNN projects Democrat Bill Owens wins in New York's 23rd congressional district, defeating Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. That was a safe seat for a moderate Republican, but they tried to force their more Conservative views on people of this district. Gales, how many Congressman from your State of New York are Republicans? Down to 2 now?

maybe so but people saying that NJ race meant nothing is a total joke

If it wasn't important to the white house why did they send superman?

Superman showed up last week , but maybe he was too late?

NJ is an overwhelming democratic state and the dems failed there.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by gales0678

maybe so but people saying that NJ race meant nothing is a total joke

If it wasn't important to the white house why did they send superman?

Of course it meant something. Governors' races are always important to both political parties, and I am sure both the DNC and the White House are disappointed with the results in New Jersey (the result in Virginia - on the other hand - was already expected). That doesn't have to mean that the electorate in these states "turned against" Obama. Although national issues can often have an effect on state and local elections, these things often turn on local issues and/or voter mobilization. I do not claim to know anything about New Jersey or Virginia politics specifically, but my guess would be that a large % of the Obama '08 voters probably stayed home in those states yesterday because they are not regular voters in non-presidential years.
Now, will those voters stay home again in 2012 or turn out again for Obama? It is far too early to predict.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Of course it meant something. Governors' races are always important to both political parties, and I am sure both the DNC and the White House are disappointed with the results in New Jersey (the result in Virginia - on the other hand - was already expected). That doesn't have to mean that the electorate in these states "turned against" Obama. Although national issues can often have an effect on state and local elections, these things often turn on local issues and/or voter mobilization. I do not claim to know anything about New Jersey or Virginia politics specifically, but my guess would be that a large % of the Obama '08 voters probably stayed home in those states yesterday because they are not regular voters in non-presidential years.
Now, will those voters stay home again in 2012 or turn out again for Obama? It is far too early to predict.

you are correct , 1st time voters and african american turn outs were both down from last year (both of these voters were heavy dem in '08) , so no a lot of what happened in NJ is not a referendum on the white house , but it is a referendum on the Dem party in NJ ....the people who voted yesterday are the ones who always vote and they voted out the incumbent gov in NJ for his specific failure's in not creating jobs and reining in property taxes that continue to spiral upwards as spending stayed high and taxes kept going up. People in NJ had seen eneough out of Corzine, he was failing them.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by gales0678

maybe so but people saying that NJ race meant nothing is a total joke

If it wasn't important to the white house why did they send superman?

Superman showed up last week , but maybe he was too late?

NJ is an overwhelming democratic state and the dems failed there.

They barely fkn read there. Corzine is a rich Wall Street guy. Not exactly a sympathetic figure. I probably wouldn't even have voted (unless the fat guy was extreme.)

[Nascar1966]

The people in Virginia and New Jersey have woken up and are sick of the lies that O"Dumbass has told. They decided to take it out on the Democratic party. In Virginia could this be a way of the military and military Retirees getting back at O'Dumbass, since Virginia has a lot of military and military Retirees living there. Thats what he deserves for not giving us Retirees a COLA raise in retirement pay. Food goes up, doesnt it yet the Retiree pay stays the same. Shows what little respect O'Dumbass has for the military and military Retirees. Why should he care, he didnt spend a day in the military. People like myself and the rest of the retirees and active military volunteer so there is no draft and ungrateful people like O'Dumbass dont serve a day in the military.

[miraja2]

I think it might also be possible that both the '08 election and the results yesterday in New Jersey demonstrates simply that those who were in power for the last 3-5 years - perhaps regardless of party - are in trouble. At times anti-incumbent sentiment trumps pro-Democrat or pro-Republican sentiment. It is hard to say for sure, but it seems like the last year or so might be one of those times.