Obama's job approval

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You arent really aware of the meaning of intellectually honest or dishonest are you? In order to be intellectually dishonest I would have to knowingly advance an argument that I knew was based on untrue information. Or I would have to knowingly withhold information that was relevant to my argument.

When exactly have I done this?

Just one example. And me saying that Democrats still "blame bush" is simply an opinion based on valid information. No honesty involved.

Keep up the the fight. Your party will need you the next few elections.

Is claiming that this is the complete definition of an intellectually dishonesst argument enough evidence of being intellectually dishonest? It is by your standard of such an argument....even though that's hardly a well-rounded, complete definition of an intellectually dishonest argument. Misrepresenting my position repeatedly is an example of being intellectually dishonest...which you have done ad nauseum in claiming I was blaming Bush when I was asking where you sudden concern for financial discussion came from.

Then again, in now a dozen tries, you've still yet to realize that I wasn't blaming Bush for anything when you tried to call me on it, so again, my participation is futile.

Of course, I'll still be more than happy to buy you a beer at Arlington again next year after all this, just like we always do.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Is claiming that this is the complete definition of an intellectually dishonesst argument enough evidence of being intellectually dishonest? It is by your standard of such an argument....even though that's hardly a well-rounded, complete definition of an intellectually dishonest argument. Misrepresenting my position repeatedly is an example of being intellectually dishonest...which you have done ad nauseum in claiming I was blaming Bush when I was asking where you sudden concern for financial discussion came from.

Then again, in now a dozen tries, you've still yet to realize that I wasn't blaming Bush for anything when you tried to call me on it, so again, my participation is futile.

Of course, I'll still be more than happy to buy you a beer at Arlington again next year after all this, just like we always do.

I cant misrepresent your position because I am only expressing my opinion of your position. If my interpretation of your "8 years" comment was inaccurate, it wasnt because of dishonesty, it was an opinion.

And Scavs will be buying all the beer at AP next summer.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I cant misrepresent your position because I am only expressing my opinion of your position. If my interpretation of your "8 years" comment was inaccurate, it wasnt because of dishonesty, it was an opinion.

And Scavs will be buying all the beer at AP next summer.

Well the 11 times or so since that comment that I've made it clear sure hasn't changed your tune, as you're still clinging to the pisspoor representation of what I actually said, which is, by all definitions, intellectually dishonest, because doing so allowed you to continue to make shots at what I was saying, despite the fact that you continued to make shots against an argument I wasn't even making...after I repeatedly made it clear that your representation (er, "opinion of what I was saying," which relies necessarily on your misrepresentation of it in the first place) was entirely incorrect.

If that's not intellectual dishonesty in a discussion, nothing is, by your standards, and I wish you'd stop hating Obama because he is Black.

Scav's apparent uptick in beer consumption this year compared to last gives me high hopes for next year's meet.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well the 11 times or so since that comment that I've made it clear sure hasn't changed your tune, as you're still clinging to the pisspoor representation of what I actually said, which is, by all definitions, intellectually dishonest, because doing so allowed you to continue to make shots at what I was saying, despite the fact that you continued to make shots against an argument I wasn't even making...after I repeatedly made it clear that your representation (er, "opinion of what I was saying," which relies necessarily on your misrepresentation of it in the first place) was entirely incorrect.

If that's not intellectual dishonesty in a discussion, nothing is, by your standards, and I wish you'd stop hating Obama because he is Black.

Scav's apparent uptick in beer consumption this year compared to last gives me high hopes for next year's meet.

I hate blacks now? Dont tell TC.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I hate blacks now? Dont tell TC.

Well, no "opinion" of what someone is saying is off-limits, and they're all admissable and should be respected whether it's correct or not in your idea of having an intellectually honest discussion, apparently, so it seems like a plausible starting point for me to continue to debunk what you're saying from here out.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I think they are talking to Veterans and telling them they are getting no Cost Of Living Allowance raise for 2010. Why should these two aholes care about us Vets? They never served a day in the Armed Forces.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I hate blacks now? Dont tell TC.

He already knows that

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I hate blacks now? Dont tell TC.

TC is black? No wonder I never got as tan as him this summer.