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Old 10-24-2009, 06:55 PM
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Grand Canyon as a 3yo.

Landaluce as a 3yo.

How the BC Distaff would have turned out had Go for Wand not broken down.

Lost Code in the 1987 and 1988 BC Classics.

King Glorious face Easy Goer and Sunday Silence.

The 1987 Travers on a fast track so when Java Gold kicked ass, there would have been no excuses.

Dinard, Event of the Year, and Dehere in their respective Derbies.

Arazi sent to the Derby with more than that one 8f grass prep.

Easy Goer, Sunday Silence, and Holy Bull complete their 4yo seasons.

Ghostzapper vs. Smarty Jones.

Candy Ride in the 2003 BC Classic.

Zenyatta face the boys.

Manila in the 1987 BC Turf
Mineshaft in the Classic.
Point Given in the Classic.
Bernardini mature a month earlier and run in the Derby.
Candy Ride just simply race more.
Barbaro not break down...I think Bernardini ran a 117 so I think he would have beat Barbaro, but that could have been some kind of rival.
Zenyatta vs Rachel in the Woodward, if the race was ran the same, Zenyatta would have beat her.
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Zenyatta vs The Boys
Rachel vs Icon Project at 1 1/4
Icon Project run in the JCGC
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:09 PM
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The great, great, great two year old Swear survive past his two year old season.
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:21 PM
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Red Ransom and Eastern Echo have careers.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:46 PM
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danzig run more than three times.

the bid with a different jock in the belmont.

seattle slew NOT run in the swaps.
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:34 PM
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danzig run more than three times.

the bid with a different jock in the belmont.

seattle slew NOT run in the swaps.
Greatest avatar of all time, or at least the past 17 years
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:19 PM
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thanks!
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:26 AM
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the bid with a different jock in the belmont.
Smarty with a different jock in the Belmont...

Secretariat run at 4 so there would be no question as to the greatest horse ever.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:15 PM
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Mineshaft in the Classic.

Dead heat with Candy Ride for 2nd.

Point Given in the Classic.

Dead heat with Include for 7th.

Bernardini mature a month earlier and run in the Derby.

8th after brilliant mid-race move.

Candy Ride just simply race more.

2nd BC Classic (deadheated w/ Mineshaft)
1st San Pasqual
1st San Antonio
1st Santa Anita Handicap
1st Shoemaker Mile
1st Hollywood Gold Cup
1st Pacific Classic
3rd Woodward
1st Jockey Club Gold Cup
2nd BC Classic

Barbaro not break down...I think Bernardini ran a 117 so I think he would have beat Barbaro, but that could have been some kind of rival.

Scratched at the gate after breaking through. Off 6 months.

2007:
1st Canadian Turf
3rd Maker's Mark
1st Woodford Reserve
3rd Manhattan
1st Iselin
2nd Woodward
3rd Jockey Club Gold Cup
5th BC Classic
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Zenyatta vs Rachel in the Woodward, if the race was ran the same, Zenyatta would have beat her.

Sea The Stars by 5.

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unplaced in 4 straight BC appearances (2 Sprints, 2 Classics).

Icon Project run in the JCGC

Eased. Vanned off. Bowed tendon.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:20 PM
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Bernardini mature a month earlier and run in the Derby.

8th after brilliant mid-race move.

I don't know man .... that was a mind-bogglingly bad field.

Steppenwolfer ran 3rd and the 2nd place finisher was coming off of a 20+ length drubbing at the hands of Sinister Minister - albeit against a biased track.


Bernardini was too much of a finisher to flatten out against that.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:27 PM
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I don't know man .... that was a mind-bogglingly bad field.

Steppenwolfer ran 3rd and the 2nd place finisher was coming off of a 20+ length drubbing at the hands of Sinister Minister - albeit against a biased track.


Bernardini was too much of a finisher to flatten out against that.
There were too many variables. I presumed he still only had his existing race record (minus the Withers), which put him at a huge disadvantage in terms seasoning.

I suppose if he "matured" earlier, he would have run in at least one significant Derby prep. In that regard, he could have won the Lexington. That would have been enough to get second.

Nonetheless, you love to knock Bluegrass Cat (I don't really blame you) as part of that weak field, but didn't he run a couple decent numbers later on?
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:45 PM
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Nonetheless, you love to knock Bluegrass Cat (I don't really blame you) as part of that weak field, but didn't he run a couple decent numbers later on?
He was 2nd to Jazil in the Belmont with a 99, won the Haskell with a 106, and was beaten 7.5 lengths to Bernardini with a 105 in the Travers and that was it.

He was kind of a poor mans Any Given Saturday.
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Old 10-24-2009, 11:19 PM
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He was 2nd to Jazil in the Belmont with a 99, won the Haskell with a 106, and was beaten 7.5 lengths to Bernardini with a 105 in the Travers and that was it.

He was kind of a poor mans Any Given Saturday.
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Old 10-24-2009, 11:35 PM
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What - you think Bluegrass Cat was a great horse?

Here are the final 6 starts of his career:

* 2nd by 2 to Deputy Glitters in the Tampa Derby

* 4th by 21 lengths to Sinister Minister in the Blue Grass

* 2nd by 6.5 lengths to the slayer of Sharp Humor in the Ky Derby at a mere 30/1 odds in a race where Brother Derek was the ML favorite and Sweetnorthernsaint was post time favorite. Current steeplechase horse Steppenwolfer was 3rd.

* 2nd by 1.25 lengths to Jazil in the Belmont. Jazil still has alw conditions

* 1st by 7 in the Haskell Stakes. Praying For Cash was 2nd. The same Praying For Cash who was last seen running 8th beaten 13 lengths at 23/1 odds in an opt claiming race at DELTA Downs.

* 2nd beaten 7.5 lengths to Bernardini in the Travers.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:29 AM
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what it was like to be at the track when it was the most popular sport in America.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:42 AM
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see Man O War and Citation race.
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