Why Lukas went downhill

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So you know for sure he did right? Because you heard it thirdhand on the radio. He trains the same amount as Baffert does zero. What does that mean?

Considering he has like 10 horses in training and best of the best are in NY how many should he have?

HMMMM who trained champion Vindication?

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Here is a picture of Going Wild after 05 Triple Crown

http://www.forgetfoo.com/images/blog/sam-ugliestdog.jpg

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

That's your style right there. Perfect!!! And the saying you were trying to say is kicking the gift horse in the mouth, not licking.

Can't say I never stole money from padua thats like b i t c h slapping them after he gave him some nice stock

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He is in desperate need of these

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ecc.../M_66187_1.jpg

Mabey you can buy him a pair for x-mas, i will even chip in

Next time you talk to him tell him, be happy with what you got not with what you don't.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah we should do that for him. Again, are you capable of reading and comprehending, because you have shown you are incapable of hearing and retaining.

If you are accusing me of having a learing disorder wouldn't that mean YOU WOULD BE PICKING ON THE HANDICAP, wow even though I am not you have sank pretty low. I was just picking on a overthehill trainer, you need some help. You are all fired up.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No I'm accusing you of being an idiot. As far as I know that doesn't qualify as handicapped.

People that have shown to incapable of hearing and retaining are not handicap?

Now your thowing accusations around, sounds to me like you should practice what you preach.

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Could it be as simple as Lukas is just getting old? What is he now- 70 something? He surely isnt going to have the energy or inclination to go out schmooze owners like he use to. He's made his millions already.

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Could it be as simple as Lukas is just getting old? What is he now- 70 something? He surely isnt going to have the energy or inclination to go out schmooze owners like he use to. He's made his millions already.

I would say that could be true but that Padua thing doesn't help his cause by no means. Plus its gotta be tough schmoozing owners if they have a feeling he took money from one of his big clients.

Let me clue you, Lukas is one of MANY prime trainers participating in such behavior towards their owners...that I can assure you of...

[Linny]

I was in Lukas' barn this summer and he had about 30 horses. He still has some for Mrs. Lewis including Simon Pure who won a race at SAR.
Those who know nothing of someone's business dealings should not profess knowledge they don't have.

I looked over every horse in the barn and saw many of them train and or race. They hardly looked abused.

DWL changed the business. He has proven to be the greatest "trainer of trainers" the game has ever seen. Pletcher, McLaughlin, Hennig, Maker and others have gone on to success. Those guys didn't get to where they are by watching a moron.

BTW, Going Wild looked great at SAR. He was second to Silver Wagon in a prep for the Forego. They skipped the Forego for an allowance and ran into Discreet Cat. He never had a "serious injury" just some of the same nagging issues that plague most race horses. He's a racehorse for crissakes. On the other thread folks are bemoainign how infrequently horses race and here Wayne's bashed for RACING his RACE HORSES!

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Hennig? You're not actually insinuating he's good....are you?

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Originally Posted by Linny

I was in Lukas' barn this summer and he had about 30 horses. He still has some for Mrs. Lewis including Simon Pure who won a race at SAR.
Those who know nothing of someone's business dealings should not profess knowledge they don't have.

I looked over every horse in the barn and saw many of them train and or race. They hardly looked abused.

DWL changed the business. He has proven to be the greatest "trainer of trainers" the game has ever seen. Pletcher, McLaughlin, Hennig, Maker and others have gone on to success. Those guys didn't get to where they are by watching a moron.

BTW, Going Wild looked great at SAR. He was second to Silver Wagon in a prep for the Forego. They skipped the Forego for an allowance and ran into Discreet Cat. He never had a "serious injury" just some of the same nagging issues that plague most race horses. He's a racehorse for crissakes. On the other thread folks are bemoainign how infrequently horses race and here Wayne's bashed for RACING his RACE HORSES!

As I've said before, none of those guys train anything like him. He hardly taught those guys to train. I'm not saying that they don't owe much of their success to him, quite to the contrary. Those guys made great contacts by working for Lukas. Not only that, but they learned a ton from Lukas about how to run an operation and about the whole business aspect of being a trainer. In terms of actual training methods, you won't find any of those guys doing anything similar to Wayne.

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[quote=Linny]I was in Lukas' barn this summer and he had about 30 horses. He still has some for Mrs. Lewis including Simon Pure who won a race at SAR.
Those who know nothing of someone's business dealings should not profess knowledge they don't have.

I looked over every horse in the barn and saw many of them train and or race. They hardly looked abused.

Nobody is saying that his horses aren't well fed. I'm sure they look fine sitting in their stalls. They're not abused in that way. You have to look at the number of horses he has broken down. The numbers don't lie. Why don't you try calling some of the thoroughbred insurance companies out there. Tell them that you just bought a 2 year old and and you want to insure him. Then tell them that your trainer is Lukas and see what they say. You will see that you will have a hard time finding a company that will sell you insurance.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Baffert did, and he no longer trains for him.

And Baffert doesn't train on the East Coast