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Old 10-14-2009, 01:43 PM
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Fascinating. How exactly is it "apples and oranges" to compare running her twice in two days to Lava Man's comeback? The arguments both for and against each situation are exactly the same. But I like the concept of making a mockery of the Breeders' Cup.
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:09 PM
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Fascinating. How exactly is it "apples and oranges" to compare running her twice in two days to Lava Man's comeback? The arguments both for and against each situation are exactly the same. But I like the concept of making a mockery of the Breeders' Cup.
Because horses that are retired due to soundness issues and returned to training have a far greater probability of injury than a horse who to our knowledge has no such history. She is far more likely to simply race poorly than breakdown.

Since when is racing recency tied to breakdowns?
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:29 PM
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Because horses that are retired due to soundness issues and returned to training have a far greater probability of injury than a horse who to our knowledge has no such history. She is far more likely to simply race poorly than breakdown.

Since when is racing recency tied to breakdowns?
But Left Bank said "WHEN the horse snaps a leg"....not if. So it's not a matter of it could happen but it will happen. Left Bank said so.

They might be different cases but both of them could end up with bad results. Or neither could.
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:36 PM
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But Left Bank said "WHEN the horse snaps a leg"....not if. So it's not a matter of it could happen but it will happen. Left Bank said so.

They might be different cases but both of them could end up with bad results. Or neither could.
Of course they could but a horse with a history of soundness issues coming back at an advanced age is much more likely to be injured than a horse without those same issues at a much younger age.

The common denominator is injury and there is no reason to believe that Lethal Heat is in any more danger to breakdown by running on back to back days while lava Man is certainly more likely to be injured in is comeback.

While I do agree there would be an uproar about LH getting hurt, there will be an uproar about any horse getting hurt. Plus no one knows who she is anyway.
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Old 10-15-2009, 12:14 AM
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Of course they could but a horse with a history of soundness issues coming back at an advanced age is much more likely to be injured than a horse without those same issues at a much younger age.

The common denominator is injury and there is no reason to believe that Lethal Heat is in any more danger to breakdown by running on back to back days while lava Man is certainly more likely to be injured in is comeback.
While I do agree there would be an uproar about LH getting hurt, there will be an uproar about any horse getting hurt. Plus no one knows who she is anyway.
I thought you were a trainer. Do you seriously believe that?
Let's just forget the fact that you think Lethal Heat is an unknown compared to Lava Man when it comes to the Peta-People.
If you think they know the difference you are WAY off base.
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Old 10-15-2009, 12:36 AM
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I thought you were a trainer. Do you seriously believe that?
Let's just forget the fact that you think Lethal Heat is an unknown compared to Lava Man when it comes to the Peta-People.
If you think they know the difference you are WAY off base.
If you are strictly talking about the PETA factor, there is no conversation. They will find fault in any situation.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:10 AM
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I thought you were a trainer. Do you seriously believe that?
Let's just forget the fact that you think Lethal Heat is an unknown compared to Lava Man when it comes to the Peta-People.
If you think they know the difference you are WAY off base.
I believe it because it is true.

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Old 10-14-2009, 05:12 PM
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It is curious that Unusual Heat has not been purchased by another outfit to stand him in Kentucky or elsewhere. I am not jabbing here, just wondering.
He's a goldmine for Abrams. It would take them years to find another Unusual Heat, so why not just keep him?
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:14 PM
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It is curious that Unusual Heat has not been purchased by another outfit to stand him in Kentucky or elsewhere. I am not jabbing here, just wondering.
He is 19 year old
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