FL racinos get video blackjack nod

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by gales0678

orioles - are slots not wokrking at a venue like yonkers?

here was a place on death's door a few years ago , now places is packed , purses are up , better racing , cards on the way , possible hotel on the way , more jobs for ny'ers on the way.....what is bad about this? , am i missing something here , is the rooney family missing something here?

I don't follow harness racing, so I don't know the specifics of the situation. The biggest problem with slots is that the money isn't coming from the sport, so it can be taken away...then what?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I don't follow harness racing, so I don't know the specifics of the situation. The biggest problem with slots is that the money isn't coming from the sport, so it can be taken away...then what?

taken away by what? yonkers is expanding , what worked at yonkers s/b able to work at the big a or belmont

now i'll give you that 8/10 customers may not be able to read the form or know the difference between a claiming race or a stakes race , but , something is working , does the rooney family miss the big picture here?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by gales0678

taken away by what? yonkers is expanding , what worked at yonkers s/b able to work at the big a or belmont

now i'll give you that 8/10 customers may not be able to read the form or know the difference between a claiming race or a stakes race , but , something is working , does the rooney family miss the big picture here?

Taken away by the people that gave them slots, politicians.

Let me ask this, how are the pools at Yonkers? Do people bet?

Because at the thoroughbred tracks, the pools with slots are pretty much a joke. They do nothing but siphon horses away from other tracks where people actually bet, helping create crap races.

Also, I think looking at a city with 10 million people in it might be a bit extreme as well.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Taken away by the people that gave them slots, politicians.

Let me ask this, how are the pools at Yonkers? Do people bet?

Because at the thoroughbred tracks, the pools with slots are pretty much a joke. They do nothing but siphon horses away from other tracks where people actually bet, helping create crap races.

Also, I think looking at a city with 10 million people in it might be a bit extreme as well.

purses are up at yonkers , i don't think the pools are that bad either , nothing like what nyra has , as for the ny metro area , yes , i agree with you that you can do things there that may not work in other cities across the country

[cmorioles]

Of courses purses are up...from the slots. I don't think the pools are much at all, but I could be wrong.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Of courses purses are up...from the slots. I don't think the pools are much at all, but I could be wrong.

the pools are probably up less in % terms than the purses , no question about that , but the higher purses have helped various barns that cannot be disputed

as i said , my guess is that of 10 people that go to yonkers , there are proabably about 3 out of 10 that go there for horses , 6 go for the slots and 1 goes for the food ... the couple that go for the food most likely throw small bets into the pools , bery meaningless , of the 6 slot players , my guess is that maybe 1 or 2 of those will play numbers in the races , again small amount into the pool .... the vast majority of the pool will come from players not at the facility (no counting barn $$$$)

[cmorioles]

I think you are vastly overestimating the amount of slots players that bet horses. The average is probably a fraction of a percent. That is my experience at places like Delaware, Evangeline, and Charles Town.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I don't follow harness racing, so I don't know the specifics of the situation. The biggest problem with slots is that the money isn't coming from the sport, so it can be taken away...then what?

But is the handle "coming from the sport"? It has been taken away has it not?