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Old 10-12-2009, 03:54 PM
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It the races were reversed, I might not think it was so crazy. I really hope she has some success though and slap all the spaced race people in the face.
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:01 PM
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Many moons ago at Trinity Meadows there was a trainer named Weaver (I think?) who used to do this. He did it with a stakes caliber horse and the horse won both races. I can't say I've seen it done ever since save Golden Man, so perhaps this will give Rick Dutrow something extra to shoot at.

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Old 10-12-2009, 04:22 PM
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Many moons ago at Trinity Meadows there was a trainer named Weaver (I think?) who used to do this. He did it with a stakes caliber horse and the horse won both races. I can't say I've seen it done ever since save Golden Man, so perhaps this will give Rick Dutrow something extra to shoot at.

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And Golden Man finished third and then second in grade three races at 8.5f.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:32 PM
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And Golden Man finished third and then second in grade three races at 8.5f.
And was completely finished after that
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:42 PM
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And was completely finished after that
He's not still racing?
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:46 PM
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Barry Abrams is a loon . Poor chap.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:01 PM
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An interesting sidebar to this will be the medication issue.

Perhaps it will be lost on the CHRB, and they won't even bother to monitor it, but essentially, Lethal Heat will have to run the 2nd race without the benefit of a 24 hr prerace treatment.

The Distaff will be the last BC race Friday, sometime in the afternoon, while the Turf Sprint will be early in the card Saturday.

As I understand it, the prerace treatment is 24hr prior to post time (in fact, some mules were scratched at Pomona this past meet for getting treated 23 hours out by mistake), so the timeframe doesn't allow for a 24hr treatment to be administered legally.
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Old 10-13-2009, 05:34 PM
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Barry Abrams is a loon . Poor chap.
Not according to Byk..he just refered to Abrams as a "genius" on his program
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:06 AM
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He's not still racing?
Yeah getting 40 beyers for 7500

After his back to back day races in which he ran 3rd and 2nd in graded stakes getting 90+ Beyers, his next race he got beat 18 lengths in Wv with a 75. After that he got beat 19 in the Pegasus with a 64. Soon after was getting beat in straight 3 year old claiming races.
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:04 AM
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Yeah getting 40 beyers for 7500

After his back to back day races in which he ran 3rd and 2nd in graded stakes getting 90+ Beyers, his next race he got beat 18 lengths in Wv with a 75. After that he got beat 19 in the Pegasus with a 64. Soon after was getting beat in straight 3 year old claiming races.
Golden Man was a product of whatever Dutrow was up to then.and he raced like 30 times after making a fair amount of money.

Isn't he going to bred the mare anyway this winter. If so who cares she will have 20 years to recover. While I do get the need to do what he is doing, its not like the end of the world.
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:08 PM
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What an idiot!
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:23 PM
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Back in the day, races were run in heats. They'd run, then have about and hour and run again. Then they would run a tie breaker if need be another hour later. Oh, and each heat was often as long as 4 miles.
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:40 PM
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I realize that in today's game, things like this are not done. But that doesn't mean that they can't be done and I don't think it makes the guy an idiot. He just thinks different. If Rachel had still been with her previous owner, we wouldn't have seen her do the magnificent things she's done. If Zenyatta was owned by Lukas, we would have seen her do differnent things. Different people have different ideas. I've seen two 2yos win the grade one Nunthorpe Stakes in Europe against older males. The first one I saw do it was Lyric Fantasy, a 2yo filly. The second one was Kingsgate Native, who was a maiden at the time. I don't want to hear about how it's grass racing and it's different. If any trainer here was to take a 2yo filly or a 2yo maiden and put them into the BC Turf Sprint, he'd be called an idiot.
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:58 PM
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And when the horse snaps a front leg,get ready for PETA.
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:01 PM
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And when the horse snaps a front leg,get ready for PETA.
I really hate when I read silly statements like this. You do know that horses that don't run on back to back days sometimes snap legs too right? You do know that Golden Man didn't snap his leg right?
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:47 PM
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I don't think she'll snap her leg, I'm just guessing that Lethal Heat might be tired.

But maybe she will show us what she is made of and run in the money in both races.
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