Best Breeder's Cup?

Cannon Shell · #1 10-05-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

For the best turf Mile I've ever seen(impressive wise) was this one from 2001.

Belmont Park - October 27th, 2001 - Race 5
Race name: Breeders' Cup Mile
Stakes - For ThoroughbredThree Year Old and UpwardOne Mile On The Turf
Purse: $1,000,000
Value of Race: $1,044,240 1st $592,800, 2nd $228,000, 3rd $136,800, 4th $63,840, 5th $22,800
Weather: Clear Track: Firm
Off at: 2:43Start: Good for all

Pgm HorseName (Jockey) Wgt M/E PP SP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Fin Odds
12 Val Royal (FR) (Valdivia, Jr., J.) 126 L 11 11 11-2 1/2 11-2 11-1/2 3-Head 1-1 3/4 5.10
1 Forbidden Apple (Nakatani, C.) 126 L 1 2 4-1/2 4-1/2 2-1 1-1 1/2 2-3/4 8.20
4 Bach (IRE) (Kinane, M.) 126 L 4 6 6-1 6-Head 5-Head 4-1 1/2 3-1 1/2 33.50
13 Irish Prize (Stevens, G.) 126 L 12 10 10-2 1/2 10-1 1/2 9-1/2 5-Head 4-Neck 5.00
2 Navesink (Prado, E.) 123 L 2 7 7-1/2 8-2 8-1/2 7-Head 5-Neck 17.00
10 Brahms (Solis, A.) 126 L b 10 9 9-1 9-1/2 10-1/2 11-Head 6-Neck 12.40
3 Noverre (Dettori, L.) 123 L 3 8 8-2 1/2 7-Head 7-Head 8-1/2 7-1 4.10*
9 Sarafan (Espinoza, V.) 126 L b 9 12 12 12 12 10-1 8-Neck 26.75
6 City Zip (Chavez, J.) 123 L b 6 1 1-1/2 1-Head 1-1/2 2-1/2 9-2 1/4 32.25
7 Express Tour (Velazquez, J.) 123 L 7 4 3-1 3-Head 3-1 1/2 6-Head 10-2 1/4 21.40
8 Affirmed Success (Bailey, J.) 126 L 8 5 5-1/2 5-1 1/2 6-1 1/2 12 11-1 3/4 5.40
5 Balto Star (Day, P.) 123 L 5 3 2-1 2-1 1/2 4-Head 9-1 1/2 12 8.10
Fractional Times:22.79,45.49,1:08.65,1:32.05

Really? I thought that mile was one of the weakest editions.

randallscott35 · #2 10-05-2009, 02:42 PM

I think Val Royal got a 116 Beyer for this and looked every bit the part doing it incredibly wide and virtually under a hand ride....Not saying anything about the field.

Cannon Shell · #3 10-05-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

I think Val Royal got a 116 Beyer for this and looked every bit the part doing it incredibly wide and virtually under a hand ride....Not saying anything about the field.

He did come from a long ways back

CSC · #4 10-05-2009, 02:52 PM

How can anyone forget the BC Mile where Domedriver won at 25-1, Rock Of Gibralter finishing second, and Landseer breaking down. The good, the bad and the ugly all in one...

BTW I bet DD that day and was obviously happy, but not happy when you saw Prado's interview of Landseer after the race.

MISTERGEE · #5 10-05-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

How can anyone forget the BC Mile where Domedriver won at 25-1, Rock Of Gibralter finishing second, and Landseer breaking down. The good, the bad and the ugly all in one...

BTW I bet DD that day and was obviously happy, but not happy when you saw Prado's interview of Landseer after the race.

Agreed, Domedriver splitting hoprses at 25-1, and the Rock making a furious charge form dead last

CSC · #6 10-05-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

Agreed, Domedriver splitting hoprses at 25-1, and the Rock making a furious charge form dead last

That was a fcuking range of emotions, I was yelling one moment that I caught a flyer and the next moment you couldn't help yourself from feeling like crap, Prado was genuinely sincere about the loss of Landseer. A range of emotions that I doubt I will ever feel again after a race.

randallscott35 · #7 10-05-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

That was a fcuking range of emotions, I was yelling one moment that I caught a flyer and the next moment you couldn't help yourself from feeling like crap, Prado was genuinely sincere about the loss of Landseer. A range of emotions that I doubt I will ever feel again after a race.

I got published in the NY Daily News because I wrote to complain about the picture of Landseer splashed across the coverage with his leg literally hanging off on the horse.

CSC · #8 10-05-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

I got published in the NY Daily News because I wrote to complain about the picture of Landseer splashed across the coverage with his leg literally hanging off on the horse.

Good for you to bring that up, that was ridiculous, I don't know if anyone noticed but I caught Tabor I think smiling after that race on the TV. I'm not sure what was said but that really peed me off, I know the guy had Hawk Wing and High Chaparral in the same yr but that was too cold for words.

Crown@club · #9 10-06-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

I got published in the NY Daily News because I wrote to complain about the picture of Landseer splashed across the coverage with his leg literally hanging off on the horse.

A lot of papers had that same picture. Tasteless.

-BT- · #10 10-05-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

How can anyone forget the BC Mile where Domedriver won at 25-1, Rock Of Gibralter finishing second, and Landseer breaking down. The good, the bad and the ugly all in one...

BTW I bet DD that day and was obviously happy, but not happy when you saw Prado's interview of Landseer after the race.

most memorable for me, hands down. I touted Domedriver for weeks going into that race, had w/p and the exacta a couple times, never forget the way Domedriver split horses to get home, and how fast the rock was closing as well

http://www.breederscup.com/greatestm...isionname=mile

the one that will live with me until the day i die, Arcangues in 1993. My first BC and i was a HUGE Bertrando fan, tough to watch

http://www.breederscup.com/greatestm...onname=classic

-bt-

randallscott35 · #11 10-07-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

That was a terrific run from off the pace, and wide, as you typed.

I recall speaking to a friend about him before the race. Val Royal entered the Oak Tree Mile off of a long layoff, and he said that a trainer could get a horse to run a big one off of a layoff, but could he a duplicate performance 2nd out in the BC Mile? I guess that Canani got that 2nd big run. I keyed Bach that day (Euro sprinter angle). Came up a little short.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaPbfrtk5vc

Sightseek · #12 10-20-2009, 09:16 PM

The original telecast for the 1989 Breeders Cup is on HRTV right now!

King Glorious · #13 10-20-2009, 10:29 PM

While watching the 1989 BC on HRTV and seeing Go for Wand, Bayakoa, Sunday Silence, and Easy Goer, it made me wonder how many hall of famers do you think we'll see this year at the BC? Zenyatta is a lock for the hall. I think that with a win, Indian Blessing has a good chance of going in. I think it's a longshot even with a win but I think a Summer Bird win might get him nominated.

King Glorious · #14 10-20-2009, 10:32 PM

How many Derby winners have been used as a rabbit? Winning Colors was part of a rabbit team for Open Mind in the 1989 Distaff.

Sightseek · #15 10-20-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

While watching the 1989 BC on HRTV and seeing Go for Wand, Bayakoa, Sunday Silence, and Easy Goer, it made me wonder how many hall of famers do you think we'll see this year at the BC? Zenyatta is a lock for the hall. I think that with a win, Indian Blessing has a good chance of going in. I think it's a longshot even with a win but I think a Summer Bird win might get him nominated.

I'm not trying to be negative, but it's just crazy to think how subpar our fields for the BC this year will be compared to this...

DaTruth · #16 10-05-2009, 03:54 PM

The 1985 edition was pretty good. Precisionist, Cozzene, and Pebbles were noteworthy winners. Some very nice horses hit the board including Lady's Secret, Smile, Turkoman, and Gate Dancer. Then there was the Overbrook owned/Jonathan Sheppard trained colt who was nailed at the wire in the Juvy and who would make quite a splash as a sire.

gamblin4ever · #17 10-05-2009, 04:51 PM

Lone Star 2004 for me.

Indian Charlie · #18 10-05-2009, 05:29 PM

1992, 1989, 1985.

1993 was pretty good too. Kotashaan and the Phone Chatter, Sardula, Heavenly Prize race.

Holland Hacker · #19 10-05-2009, 07:16 PM

I'm amazed that 1988 at Chuchhill downs hasn't been mentioned.

Personal Ensign nipping Winning Colors and Goodbye Halo in the shadow of the wire.

Alysheba defeating Seeking the Gold, Forty Niner, Personal Flag, Cryptocleance, Waquiot and Slew City Slew.

Great Communicator beating Sunshine Forever in the Turf.

Miesque winning her second BC turf mile over Steinlen and destroying my all times favorite horse Bet Twice who never should have been in the mile.

Is it True beating Easy Goer in the Juvenile over a course that Easy Goer clearly despised. Too bad for him he caught a similar track a few months later in the derby.

Open Mind winning the Juvenile Fillies as one of a five horse Lukas Entry that completed the trifecta.

And Of course Gulch winning the Sprint coming from off the pace. (I'm still amazed that Leroy Jolley got him to go a route of ground in the Triple Crown races.)

NTamm1215 · #20 10-05-2009, 08:06 PM

2006 was the best for me from a wagering standpoint. 2004 was the best from a fan perspective as I was live to see Ghostzapper. 2007 was a mess because of the weather but I really, really love Monmouth Park, so it had a great deal of appeal.

The Distaff and Sprint from 1999 will always be personal highlights as I've always been a huge Jorge Chavez fan but now having met Richard Migliore and knowing what an absolute class act he is, the 2008 Turf Sprint will have added significance.

That being said, wasn't the 1993 running pretty fun from start to finish? The Paseana-Hollywood Wilcat battle, Kotashaan and Bien Bien, Arcangues and Phone Chatter...that was a terrific Breeders' Cup.

NT