Spanish Chestnut....

[slotdirt]

Nobody ever thought Spanish Chestnut was a world beater. Still, he's a useful horse who has looked good in spots here and there.

[The Bid]

PMA I couldnt agree more. Its ashame hes never been put in the right place, you would think Tagg and Funny Cide's crew were picking his spots. Try him on the grass for christ sakes

[Seattleallstar]

a horse they messed up so bad its really a damn shame, could of been a useful sprinter/miler.

[King Glorious]

This horse has never possessed the speed to be a top level sprinter and can't run well past a mile. He might have been able to be a decent miler but in this country, there aren't many races for those types and he wasn't going to beat the better ones anyway. Extremely overrated horse in my opinion.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

This horse has never possessed the speed to be a top level sprinter and can't run well past a mile. He might have been able to be a decent miler but in this country, there aren't many races for those types and he wasn't going to beat the better ones anyway. Extremely overrated horse in my opinion.

How can you say he was overrated? Nobody ever thought he was anything more than a lower level, GIII type horse. Is that overrated? I don't think so; he's shown he can compete on that level.

A horse that was used as a f-ing rabbit in the biggest race on the planet just can't, by nature, be overrated.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

How can you say he was overrated? Nobody ever thought he was anything more than a lower level, GIII type horse. Is that overrated? I don't think so; he's shown he can compete on that level.

A horse that was used as a f-ing rabbit in the biggest race on the planet just can't, by nature, be overrated.

I knew of people that were saying he was a legit Derby contender after he won that race at Santa Anita. I knew of many people that thought after the Derby that if he were dropped back down to sprints or miles, that he would be a grade one type. For those people, I say he was overrated. For those of us that thought he wouldn't amount to much more than a competitive (but non-winning) grade three type, I guess u could say we didn't overrate him.

Just because he ran in the Derby doesn't mean that he can't be called overrated. Many times u see trainers enter horses that have no shot in a race to be a rabbit for their main horse. Does that make all of those rabbits legit horses? No. So just because Spanish Chestnut was used as a rabbit in the Derby doesn't make him exempt from being able to be put in the overrated category for those that thought he'd be much.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I knew of people that were saying he was a legit Derby contender after he won that race at Santa Anita. I knew of many people that thought after the Derby that if he were dropped back down to sprints or miles, that he would be a grade one type. For those people, I say he was overrated. For those of us that thought he wouldn't amount to much more than a competitive (but non-winning) grade three type, I guess u could say we didn't overrate him.

Just because he ran in the Derby doesn't mean that he can't be called overrated. Many times u see trainers enter horses that have no shot in a race to be a rabbit for their main horse. Does that make all of those rabbits legit horses? No. So just because Spanish Chestnut was used as a rabbit in the Derby doesn't make him exempt from being able to be put in the overrated category for those that thought he'd be much.

My point in saying he was a rabbit is that obviously nobody at that time thought he was a competitive horse at that level. I never thought he was more than what he is now, and thought it was sad that they'd put him through the Derby given his chances.

[Hwjb]

Tabor should take some advice from his good friend JP McManus, send Spanish Chestnut to Jonjo O'Neill's and mop up all the fancy prices for the Supreme Novices' Hurdle on Day 1 of the Cheltenham Festival!