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Old 09-29-2009, 10:39 AM
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No athlete is the same. Duh.

Better Talk Now and Lava Man in their prime were like Mario Elie and Luc Longley. Sure they were champions but the environment they performed in enhanced their status.

To bring Mario Elie and Luc Longley out of retirement now would be ridiculous. They had a nice run.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:50 AM
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No athlete is the same. Duh.

Better Talk Now and Lava Man in their prime were like Mario Elie and Luc Longley. Sure they were champions but the environment they performed in enhanced their status.

To bring Mario Elie and Luc Longley out of retirement now would be ridiculous. They had a nice run.
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that one athlete that's 40 is not the same as another athlete that's 40. Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant at 40 will be in much better shape physically than Yao Ming or Shaquille O'Neal would be at that same age. To say that a certain age automatically means that there are going to be certain physical ailments that come alone with it is illogical. There are too many variable that go into determing these things. One horse might have raced 70 times, another might have run 30. One might have been running primarily in dirt sprints, another in turf routes. One might have run 12 times a year, the other five times a year. You don't know what kind of training and treatments each horse might have had. I just don't think you can look at his age and say this or that is going to happen because the things that people are expecting might happen may not happen......but could very well happen to a 4yo in the same race with him.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:52 AM
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That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that one athlete that's 40 is not the same as another athlete that's 40. Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant at 40 will be in much better shape physically than Yao Ming or Shaquille O'Neal would be at that same age. To say that a certain age automatically means that there are going to be certain physical ailments that come alone with it is illogical. There are too many variable that go into determing these things. One horse might have raced 70 times, another might have run 30. One might have been running primarily in dirt sprints, another in turf routes. One might have run 12 times a year, the other five times a year. You don't know what kind of training and treatments each horse might have had. I just don't think you can look at his age and say this or that is going to happen because the things that people are expecting might happen may not happen......but could very well happen to a 4yo in the same race with him.
Yet you are comparing Better Talk Now and Lave Man to Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. They clearly haven't accomplished what those two have. That's why my comparison to Mario Elie and Luc Longley is mo' valid and yours isn't.

But the point is to make you see how retarded it is. Don't you see that a 40 year old Longley coming out of retirement would be disastrous? Same thing with Lava Man.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:10 AM
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Yet you are comparing Better Talk Now and Lave Man to Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. They clearly haven't accomplished what those two have. That's why my comparison to Mario Elie and Luc Longley is mo' valid and yours isn't.

But the point is to make you see how retarded it is. Don't you see that a 40 year old Longley coming out of retirement would be disastrous? Same thing with Lava Man.
Who the hell is comparing them in abilities? The ability or talent that each has or lacks is the last part of my argument. That's not what I'm talking about at all. I'm talking about physical condition and age. Period. Goodness.
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