Kentucky Sen. David Williams responds to Bill Farish

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

And why is it bad for racing that it is comsolidating to business friendly environments? Your 25 horses will be welcomed in NY, perhaps it will be good for your business, perhaps the advent of 6 ot 7 other such trainers in Ny will spur better racing? The gold rush had everyone move to the west when the gold dried up people had to change. While I am sorry that the industry has to consolidate in order for it to carry on, it appears to be a very Darwinian evolution.
As for the politician, all that needs to be said is why is he any different then any other? As for if he is philosophically correct on slots or just a knucklehead who cares the country needs more slots like they need to print more money. Imagine racing for 45 Mdn Spl in Ny without slots..Imagine the purses going to 55k because you and your KY botherhood bring an additional 400 head to the area. maybe allowance racing will return to NY..Wow a card filled with 1,2,3 other than races now that would be healthy.

And how exactly is that good for the state of KY?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And how exactly is that good for the state of KY?

I gather you are a very smart person. I recognize you are no dummy so think about it. When KY loses its prized race horse industry or more correctly it is culled to a sustainable size cetain things will develop and grow organically. While a forest fire sux for the things living in the forest, the land revitalizes itself and the ground becomes more fertile. While there is pain in Detriot now that car industry is shrinking certainly people will have to educate themselves in different areas then making cars for 68 bucks an hour. Again it sucks if you worked for the UAW for the last 10 years but this is crappy part of life. Our industry used to bolstered by the pharma companies buying 1 bil in ad specialty products a year.. In one day collectively as an industry they all decided to stop purchasing ad specialty products to promote drugs.. Whoops we where out 30 mil in revenue in one day. While it sucked it has inspired all to reinvent their business. Perhaps I should have asked my local politician to have slots at Freehold and funnel all the ad specialty companies in the state some of the stolen earn??
Horse racing is not any different then any other industry just because live stock is involved. It is subject to the pro and cons of economics and needs to be mindful that is cottage entertainment industry. As such it needs to emerge from these times smaller and healthier and if that means less racing in any one part of the country including KY then so be it. It's ok if you and your bretheren have to practice your trade in a different environment. Horse racing in KY isn't immuned to issues just because it has such a rich history...That was then this is now. You and yours are good horseman you will make a living were you need to. Just like our company will need to find other companies that need our products instead of Pharma's. Change is healthy.. As for how it helps KY maybe today it doesn't but after the fire the ground is more fertile and the people in the state will be better off in jobs that are within sectors of the economy that are more reliable then racing. Or the folks in racing will have jobs in a stronger healthy sport either way its a win win for KY just not immediately. Your get rich quick slot solution isn't in anyones best interest longterm..

Steve had some guy on one day telling us about some wonderful new community in Indiana some where.. New police new roads new this new that, it was fantasy land not that it wasnt real for the time being just that it was built with fools gold. Imagine how hard that town is going to fall when the slot dollars come to an end. You want your livlihood pinned to slots...Come on you are way smarter than that.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I gather you are a very smart person. I recognize you are no dummy so think about it. When KY loses its prized race horse industry or more correctly it is culled to a sustainable size cetain things will develop and grow organically. While a forest fire sux for the things living in the forest, the land revitalizes itself and the ground becomes more fertile. While there is pain in Detriot now that car industry is shrinking certainly people will have to educate themselves in different areas then making cars for 68 bucks an hour. Again it sucks if you worked for the UAW for the last 10 years but this is crappy part of life. Our industry used to bolstered by the pharma companies buying 1 bil in ad specialty products a year.. In one day collectively as an industry they all decided to stop purchasing ad specialty products to promote drugs.. Whoops we where out 30 mil in revenue in one day. While it sucked it has inspired all to reinvent their business. Perhaps I should have asked my local politician to have slots at Freehold and funnel all the ad specialty companies in the state some of the stolen earn??
Horse racing is not any different then any other industry just because live stock is involved. It is subject to the pro and cons of economics and needs to be mindful that is cottage entertainment industry. As such it needs to emerge from these times smaller and healthier and if that means less racing in any one part of the country including KY then so be it. It's ok if you and your bretheren have to practice your trade in a different environment. Horse racing in KY isn't immuned to issues just because it has such a rich history...That was then this is now. You and yours are good horseman you will make a living were you need to. Just like our company will need to find other companies that need our products instead of Pharma's. Change is healthy.. As for how it helps KY maybe today it doesn't but after the fire the ground is more fertile and the people in the state will be better off in jobs that are within sectors of the economy that are more reliable then racing. Or the folks in racing will have jobs in a stronger healthy sport either way its a win win for KY just not immediately. Your get rich quick slot solution isn't in anyones best interest longterm..

Steve had some guy on one day telling us about some wonderful new community in Indiana some where.. New police new roads new this new that, it was fantasy land not that it wasnt real for the time being just that it was built with fools gold. Imagine how hard that town is going to fall when the slot dollars come to an end. You want your livlihood pinned to slots...Come on you are way smarter than that.

Ask people in Vegas how that has worked out for the last 75 years. It's gone from an outpost in the desert to one of the best places in the country to live with almost 2 million people in the Vegas Valley (regardless of the recent credit crunch brought on by superfluous, unsustainable housing prices.)

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by philcski

Ask people in Vegas how that has worked out for the last 75 years. It's gone from an outpost in the desert to one of the best places in the country to live with almost 2 million people in the Vegas Valley (regardless of the recent credit crunch brought on by superfluous, unsustainable housing prices.)

Come on Phil a World famous destination location vs. slots in every Tom Dick and Harry part of the USA now.. Vegas is nothing like Yonkers on a Tuesday nite in Feb. You are way smarter then this as well. How is AC fairing? Its an FN GHOST TOWN and all the wonderful result of al those billions of earn that was pumped into the area seems a bit faded.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Come on Phil a World famous destination location vs. slots in every Tom Dick and Harry part of the USA now.. Vegas is nothing like Yonkers on a Tuesday nite in Feb. You are way smarter then this as well. How is AC fairing? Its an FN GHOST TOWN and all the wonderful result of al those billions of earn that was pumped into the area seems a bit faded.

You ever been to Yonkers on a Tuesday? I have many times, it's busy.

Ever been to Hollywood Indiana on a Tuesday? Place is super busy. And I'm not kidding. Mostly KY and OH plates.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by philcski

You ever been to Yonkers on a Tuesday? I have many times, it's busy.

Ever been to Hollywood Indiana on a Tuesday? Place is super busy. And I'm not kidding. Mostly KY and OH plates.

Of course its busy but when Ohio slots come on line the Ohio plates go away and then if the Ky slots come on line the Ky plates go away then the jobs in that pretty place that the KY and Ohio plates made go away. It really is a horrendously poorly constructed solution to racing. And more importantly it doesnt curtail the expansion of racing it encourageous it.

[Danzig]

all things being equal, racing would still have culling between who has a good product, and who does not. problem is, there isn't a level field right now. no reason why kentucky can't try to right the ship, even if they're a late entrant into the slots game.
and i certainly don't get why kentucky can't enter the slots game, regardless of how many slots are online in a neighboring state. there is a fair amount of restaurants in a town near here. a new one is being built. he's a late entrant, should he be barred as there are already restaurants? how dare he peel customers away from what already exists...what kind of logic is that?