9/12 (BEL): Ruffian H., Garden City S. (G1's)

[NTamm1215]

For all of the Desormeaux bashing that goes on (and I'm definitely one of the bashers) the guy is tremendous when it comes to assessing a situation and riding his horse like they're the best in the race. Case in point was the Sands Point when he capitalized on the paceless setup and took the race to them. He's very, very good when it comes to that stuff.

I can't imagine how anyone who has watched replays of races could like Miss World, Pull Dancer, or Shared Account, all of whom had incredibly perfect trips in their last races. They might have upside but upside, to me, comes into play when you have a vulnerable favorite. Gozzip Girl is not vulnerable at all.

NT

[Travis Stone]

If Kent takes her to the front and backs down the pace she'll probably win for fun. My thought was the way to play against her is to think he pulls back and tries to emulate that American Oaks kick in the stretch.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

For all of the Desormeaux bashing that goes on (and I'm definitely one of the bashers) the guy is tremendous when it comes to assessing a situation and riding his horse like they're the best in the race. Case in point was the Sands Point when he capitalized on the paceless setup and took the race to them. He's very, very good when it comes to that stuff.

I can't imagine how anyone who has watched replays of races could like Miss World, Pull Dancer, or Shared Account, all of whom had incredibly perfect trips in their last races. They might have upside but upside, to me, comes into play when you have a vulnerable favorite. Gozzip Girl is not vulnerable at all.

NT

I love Kent, I think he's top 5. I just think Gozzip is slightly overated. If Im right about that, any with upside can jump up and win.

[Dunbar]

Here are some prop bets on these two races from World Sports Exch (wsex.com):

Outcome Lengths Money Line
SEVENTH STREET/BE FAIR -160
FIELD (ALL 4 MUST GO) +130

Outcome Lengths Money Line
SWIFT TEMPER -1.0 -115
LUNA VEGA +1.0 -115

Outcome Lengths Money Line
GOZZIP GIRL -0.5 -140
PULL DANCER/MARAM +0.5 +110

Example: In the last one, if you bet on Pull Dancer/Maram, then if either of them finishes less than 1/2 length behind Gozzip Girl, you win $11 for every $10 you bet. (losing by exactly 1/2 length would be a push.)

--Dunbar

[Gander]

I think I'd rather wait and take a shot against a much more vulnerable favorite in Grand Couterier tomorrow in the Bowling Green. Granted, his price will be higher than that of Gozzip Girl, but I think hes twice as likely to lose as Gozzip Girl.

[CSC]

Looks like a chalky day at the office for the Ruffian and GC.

[Gander]

Thats why they run races on dirt and turf, not paper. Wow, what an upset. No excuse perfect trip for Seventh Street and did she ever look flat in the stretch.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Gander

Thats why they run races on dirt and turf, not paper. Wow, what an upset. No excuse perfect trip for Seventh Street and did she ever look flat in the stretch.

It's only a big upset because Seventh Street was so horrendously overbet. I figured she'd be 3-5, not 1-4. People really drank the "Godolphin is back!" Kool-Aid.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I love Kent, I think he's top 5. I just think Gozzip is slightly overated. If Im right about that, any with upside can jump up and win.

"I love Kent" There's something you don't here everyday.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

For all of the Desormeaux bashing that goes on (and I'm definitely one of the bashers) the guy is tremendous when it comes to assessing a situation and riding his horse like they're the best in the race. Case in point was the Sands Point when he capitalized on the paceless setup and took the race to them. He's very, very good when it comes to that stuff.

Not saying it was all his fault, but this reads kinda funny now.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Not saying it was all his fault, but this reads kinda funny now.

You had to figure the first time I pay the guy a compliment he'd do that.

That was a 1st class horrendous ride.

NT

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You had to figure the first time I pay the guy a compliment he'd do that.

That was a 1st class horrendous ride.

NT

On top of him earlier on TVG saying she's the best horse he rides today....

[Gander]

First one to bring up my ridiculously stupid post is a rotten egg!

Here it is, I'll save somebody the trouble...

"She was life and death to win last time with an absolute perfect trip against much cheaper. Just how much do you think Clement can move up to compete with the top 3? Shes hung in races prior to finally winning last time. Shes the easiest throwout of the race." (regarding the winner Miss World)

Give me the dunce cap award for the weekend for that one.

The only good thing is I didnt bet anything on the race. Would have went for a win bet on Pull Dancer and a straight exacta over Gossip Girl, backing it up for a few bucks the other way.

[Sightseek]

PG gave out the winners of both of these races.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

PG gave out the winners of both of these races.

Not to Redboard.... I also gave out Ohio St. "please dont choke now"
I played them heavy w/ the points with local book, I also took them money line at sportsinteraction.com