Macho Again

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If anything ... it's slightly too high at 109.

A lot of the horses like Cool Coal Man and Past The Point who got Beyers in the 70's will improve huge next time because they were up too close to a brutally fast pace and stopped in the Woodward.

While a hanging bum like Macho Again, who was nowhere near the pace, will come down to earth. As will Bullsbay.

Agree except for the last one. Bullsbay runs his race just about every time, and that was his race.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by philcski

Agree except for the last one. Bullsbay runs his race just about every time, and that was his race.

Just a question does anyone here think another closer other than Bullsbay or MA would have won the Woodward if they ran? I know this is all speculation but that's where we are Monday morning quarterbacking...I think a closer with more conviction would have won that race and I guess who most know who I am referring to...God I know I am annoying...

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

Just a question does anyone here think another closer other than Bullsbay or MA would have won the Woodward if they ran? I know this is all speculation but that's where we are Monday morning quarterbacking...I think a closer with more conviction would have won that race and I guess who most know who I am referring to...God I know I am annoying...

The Summer Bird of the Haskell and Travers who laid much closer to the pace would have been galloped into the ground. There's no way he could have been within a fart's distance of the pace she set and stayed on.

Now, if he had been taken back and allowed to make that one run that he did in the Belmont then that could have made things interesting.

The thing about the Woodward is that it would have set up well for any closer. However, they would still have had to get by her.

NT

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The Summer Bird of the Haskell and Travers who laid much closer to the pace would have been galloped into the ground. There's no way he could have been within a fart's distance of the pace she set and stayed on.

Now, if he had been taken back and allowed to make that one run that he did in the Belmont then that could have made things interesting.

The thing about the Woodward is that it would have set up well for any closer. However, they would still have had to get by her.

NT

Only one comes to mind.....Zenyatta...

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The Summer Bird of the Haskell and Travers who laid much closer to the pace would have been galloped into the ground. There's no way he could have been within a fart's distance of the pace she set and stayed on.

Now, if he had been taken back and allowed to make that one run that he did in the Belmont then that could have made things interesting.

The thing about the Woodward is that it would have set up well for any closer. However, they would still have had to get by her.

NT

Yeah it would have been interesting, we will never know unfortunately but this Woodward answered some very important questions for me, RA can fracture speed, that is her strength, however in a fairly run race where we have all types of profiles she can also be beaten. This is not to take anything away from her, this Woodward was the best indication of her talents as a racehorse, not the 3 horse field in the MG or the Haskell or Oaks, in a fairly run race as the Preakness and Woodward she can be beaten. These 2 races have and especially the last have given me more appreciation for her then the open length wins she has accumulated in the past. She showed grit and I love that in a racehorse.

Edit-I also think it's a fair question to how she will do when the races are a furlong farther.