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09-07-2009, 09:01 PM
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I don't want to be seen to be joining the debate late, even though I am, or joining it from a Euro-centric point of view, even though I am, but I have seen all of Rachel Alexandra's races and she's performed to a certain level, a high-class level admittedly, but not a level which marks her out as an all-time great. She also surely didn't need to improve to win at the weekend in face of what was an horrendously strong ride - one which bans are surely designed for - suggesting that she's reached, or may well have passed her peak.
I only say this because there are two higher-rated horses in Europe who, were they to come to America and win a BC race, would surely be more deserving of a Horse of The Year accolade, namely Sea The Stars and Goldikova. The former is, admittedly, none to likely to venture across the Atlantic, but the latter will, and there are plenty who would suggest that she is a significantly better mare than that one who was beaten the shyte out of to win the Woodward!
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09-07-2009, 09:10 PM
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As far as Borel getting a suspension for his ride, that's not going to happen. That's American racing for you, like it or not. NT
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09-07-2009, 09:16 PM
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I think if Sea the Stars comes here and wins the Classic, he will be HOY. If he comes for the turf, it wont matter.
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09-07-2009, 10:00 PM
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09-07-2009, 10:15 PM
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Top 3yr old and Horse of the Year off of one race? The chances of it happening are zero...
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09-08-2009, 07:46 PM
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If many other European horses have been able to come here and win championships off of one race, I don't understand why people think it's such a dumb idea to suggest Sea the Stars should be considered. Arazi was not only named champion 2yo but was also one of the three finalists for HOY in 1991 and that was after winning the Juvenile. Singspiel was named turf champion in 1996 even though he never won a race in this country. As long as the only criteria is that a horse must have started at least once in North America, if Sea the Stars were to come over and win, he'd get my vote. If you think Rachel is the best horse, then vote for her. But to me, it would be stupid if you believe that Sea the Stars is the best, that you would not vote for a horse that is qualified.
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09-07-2009, 10:26 PM
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09-07-2009, 11:06 PM
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HOY is a lady yea ,yea she's a lady, hopefully she runs next year....
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09-07-2009, 09:18 PM
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With regards Borel (and jockeyship in general), I believe a horse needs to be given a chance to respond to the whip. When my cash is down I like a strong ride as much as the next man, and God knows we've just seen the strongest of them all return in Kieren Fallon, but Borel was nothing other than brutal at the weekend. When the wider audience sees it, it's one of those things that turns so many away from our sport.
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09-07-2009, 09:13 PM
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09-07-2009, 09:17 PM
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