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Old 09-07-2009, 05:01 PM
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I would say these are the only horses who have any chance at all at HOY and they all would have to hope Rachel runs again and gets beat...

Rachel 1-9

Zenyatta
Rail Trip
Summer Bird
Sea the Stars..... they all have outside chances but things would have to go perfect



Icon Project, I am putting her only because I beleive she is a stayer and at 1 1/4 could do some damage, maybe classic?
Gio Ponti..... these 2 need TONS OF HELP.

I dont see how anyone else has any prayer.
zenyatta would have to race in and win the classic to even be considered. i doubt they run her there.
summer bird lost to rachel, so i don't see him getting more votes then her.
rail trip just lost, so he's up against it.
euro horse getting hoy-we have tremendously good horses this year, so i would think he had no shot at an eclipse unless he ran in and won the turf, he could then steal the turf award from gio ponti.
icon project won't get hoy-she hasn't gone undefeated, and hasn't taken on the horses that rachel has faced.
gio ponti would have to win the classic, and even then i don't think he'd get the votes because he's been a turfer for much of the year.

rachel has accomplished quite a bit-i have a hard time seeing anyone taking the nod away-but there's still racing left, so we'll see.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:10 PM
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zenyatta would have to race in and win the classic to even be considered. i doubt they run her there.
summer bird lost to rachel, so i don't see him getting more votes then her.
rail trip just lost, so he's up against it.
euro horse getting hoy-we have tremendously good horses this year, so i would think he had no shot at an eclipse unless he ran in and won the turf, he could then steal the turf award from gio ponti.
icon project won't get hoy-she hasn't gone undefeated, and hasn't taken on the horses that rachel has faced.
gio ponti would have to win the classic, and even then i don't think he'd get the votes because he's been a turfer for much of the year.

rachel has accomplished quite a bit-i have a hard time seeing anyone taking the nod away-but there's still racing left, so we'll see.

All I was saying is what if... Read my opening sentence. Right now she is clearly the leader. Rail Trip lost all chance yesterday, regardless of what he does from now on. I would guess the only ones with a Hope to win it are... Zenyatta, Sea the Stars and Summer Bird.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:28 PM
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All I was saying is what if... Read my opening sentence. Right now she is clearly the leader. Rail Trip lost all chance yesterday, regardless of what he does from now on. I would guess the only ones with a Hope to win it are... Zenyatta, Sea the Stars and Summer Bird.
Rail Tripped is a dog. Zenyatta needs a lemonade stand to be considered great. Summer Bird was born the wrong year.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:29 PM
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Rail Tripped is a dog. Zenyatta needs a lemonade stand to be considered great. Summer Bird was born the wrong year.

Freddy its all what if. It really dont matter to me. But if Zenyatta goes into the Classic undefeated and beats the Birds and Sea the Stars, she will win it. If Summer Bird wins the JCGC and Classic, I think he has a shot.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:31 PM
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Freddy its all what if. It really dont matter to me. But if Zenyatta goes into the Classic undefeated and beats the Birds and Sea the Stars, she will win it. If Summer Bird wins the JCGC and Classic, I think he has a shot.
Zenyatta couldnt beat Sea the stars with a 1/16th of a mile head start
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:39 PM
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Zenyatta couldnt beat Sea the stars with a 1/16th of a mile head start
I AGREE.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:36 PM
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At this point you'd have better sport wagering on how close to unanimous the voting will be. I could see Gio Ponti and Sea the Stars maybe, maybe getting a vote or two, but that's about it. In the words of the immortal Bill Paxton in Aliens, "Game over man! Game over."
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:41 PM
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At this point you'd have better sport wagering on how close to unanimous the voting will be. I could see Gio Ponti and Sea the Stars maybe, maybe getting a vote or two, but that's about it. In the words of the immortal Bill Paxton in Aliens, "Game over man! Game over."
How can Gio Ponti get anything? He is no better then Einstein over the synthetics. If they go that route, I would take Zenyatta over him. I guess if all the top Euros go to the classic and he wins the turf, then maybe, but I highly doubt he has much of a chance.

Belmont-Travers-JCGC-BCC winner, it would be hard to keep HOY from him?
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:34 PM
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How can Gio Ponti get anything? He is no better then Einstein over the synthetics. If they go that route, I would take Zenyatta over him. I guess if all the top Euros go to the classic and he wins the turf, then maybe, but I highly doubt he has much of a chance.

Belmont-Travers-JCGC-BCC winner, it would be hard to keep HOY from him?

Gio Pionti could win a Group2 in Euro nevermind a G1
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