Horse of the Year

[copying]

Beating Macho by a diminishing head at 1 1/8 miles makes you HOY? Whitney winner Bullsbay checked in 10th at Hol Gold Cup. Rachel wouldn't hit the board in Pacific Classic. Good 3yo filly... the Woodward aint what it use to be.
HOY = Rail Trip -- Gold Cup winner, Pacific Classic winner, Breeders Cup Classic winner.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by copying

Beating Macho by a diminishing head at 1 1/8 miles makes you HOY? Whitney winner Bullsbay checked in 10th at Hol Gold Cup. Rachel wouldn't hit the board in Pacific Classic. Good 3yo filly... the Woodward aint what it use to be.
HOY = Rail Trip -- Gold Cup winner, Pacific Classic winner, Breeders Cup Classic winner.

What an idiotic post. By Rail Trip, do you mean Ball Four's whipping boy?

Let's see Rail Trip win the rubber match with Informed before we crown him anything.

You should learn to take race dynamics into consideration when creating opinions in thoroughbred racing.

NT

[copying]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What an idiotic post. By Rail Trip, do you mean Ball Four's whipping boy?

Let's see Rail Trip win the rubber match with Informed before we crown him anything.

You should learn to take race dynamics into consideration when creating opinions in thoroughbred racing.

NT

By that kind of logic, then when you are referring to Rachel, you must mean, SaraLouise's, Garden District's, and Songstress's whipping boy?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by copying

Beating Macho by a diminishing head at 1 1/8 miles makes you HOY? Whitney winner Bullsbay checked in 10th at Hol Gold Cup. Rachel wouldn't hit the board in Pacific Classic. Good 3yo filly... the Woodward aint what it use to be.
HOY = Rail Trip -- Gold Cup winner, Pacific Classic winner, Breeders Cup Classic winner.

Elle oh Hell.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by copying

Beating Macho by a diminishing head at 1 1/8 miles makes you HOY? Whitney winner Bullsbay checked in 10th at Hol Gold Cup. Rachel wouldn't hit the board in Pacific Classic. Good 3yo filly... the Woodward aint what it use to be.
HOY = Rail Trip -- Gold Cup winner, Pacific Classic winner, Breeders Cup Classic winner.

So....still feel the same about ole' Rail Trip?

[copying]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So....still feel the same about ole' Rail Trip?

3rd in a 12 horse field -- ran good but no world beater.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by copying

Beating Macho by a diminishing head at 1 1/8 miles makes you HOY? Whitney winner Bullsbay checked in 10th at Hol Gold Cup. Rachel wouldn't hit the board in Pacific Classic. Good 3yo filly... the Woodward aint what it use to be.
HOY = Rail Trip -- Gold Cup winner, Pacific Classic winner, Breeders Cup Classic winner.

the woodward was the icing on the cake. or are you conveniently ignoring all her other wins?

and lol at hoy=rail trip.

[copying]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the woodward was the icing on the cake. or are you conveniently ignoring all her other wins?

and lol at hoy=rail trip.

Rail Trip - 3rd by 3/4 @ 1 1/4mi in a 12 horse field -- not bad. Is there anyone here that doesn't think the first 4 finishers in the PC doesn't win the Woodward by daylight????????

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by copying

Rail Trip - 3rd by 3/4 @ 1 1/4mi in a 12 horse field -- not bad. Is there anyone here that doesn't think the first 4 finishers in the PC doesn't win the Woodward by daylight????????

Are you joking right now? Einstein is clearly best on synthetics... Its not even a question anymore, not dirt, not even turf, he is best on synthetics. Rail Trip is ok at best, and has NEVER BEEN ON DIRT. The winner is probablly a joke. I think he would have been last in the Woodward and the Shug horse cant run a step on dirt.
Drugs needs to get you on the poll right now.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by copying

Rail Trip - 3rd by 3/4 @ 1 1/4mi in a 12 horse field -- not bad. Is there anyone here that doesn't think the first 4 finishers in the PC doesn't win the Woodward by daylight????????

Wow.

NT

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Wow.

NT

Double Wow.

[Hwjb]

I don't want to be seen to be joining the debate late, even though I am, or joining it from a Euro-centric point of view, even though I am, but I have seen all of Rachel Alexandra's races and she's performed to a certain level, a high-class level admittedly, but not a level which marks her out as an all-time great. She also surely didn't need to improve to win at the weekend in face of what was an horrendously strong ride - one which bans are surely designed for - suggesting that she's reached, or may well have passed her peak.

I only say this because there are two higher-rated horses in Europe who, were they to come to America and win a BC race, would surely be more deserving of a Horse of The Year accolade, namely Sea The Stars and Goldikova. The former is, admittedly, none to likely to venture across the Atlantic, but the latter will, and there are plenty who would suggest that she is a significantly better mare than that one who was beaten the shyte out of to win the Woodward!

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Hwjb

I don't want to be seen to be joining the debate late, even though I am, or joining it from a Euro-centric point of view, even though I am, but I have seen all of Rachel Alexandra's races and she's performed to a certain level, a high-class level admittedly, but not a level which marks her out as an all-time great. She also surely didn't need to improve to win at the weekend in face of what was an horrendously strong ride - one which bans are surely designed for - suggesting that she's reached, or may well have passed her peak.

I only say this because there are two higher-rated horses in Europe who, were they to come to America and win a BC race, would surely be more deserving of a Horse of The Year accolade, namely Sea The Stars and Goldikova. The former is, admittedly, none to likely to venture across the Atlantic, but the latter will, and there are plenty who would suggest that she is a significantly better mare than that one who was beaten the shyte out of to win the Woodward!

Sea the Stars looks like a great horse and Goldikova is supposedly better than she was last year so I'm sure they'll both have great chances in the BC. However, there's no reason for the American Horse of the Year to go to a horse who's made one start in this country. There are surely honors to be given to these great horses on your side of the pond.

As far as Borel getting a suspension for his ride, that's not going to happen. That's American racing for you, like it or not.

NT

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Hwjb

I don't want to be seen to be joining the debate late, even though I am, or joining it from a Euro-centric point of view, even though I am, but I have seen all of Rachel Alexandra's races and she's performed to a certain level, a high-class level admittedly, but not a level which marks her out as an all-time great. She also surely didn't need to improve to win at the weekend in face of what was an horrendously strong ride - one which bans are surely designed for - suggesting that she's reached, or may well have passed her peak.

I only say this because there are two higher-rated horses in Europe who, were they to come to America and win a BC race, would surely be more deserving of a Horse of The Year accolade, namely Sea The Stars and Goldikova. The former is, admittedly, none to likely to venture across the Atlantic, but the latter will, and there are plenty who would suggest that she is a significantly better mare than that one who was beaten the shyte out of to win the Woodward!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by copying

Rail Trip - 3rd by 3/4 @ 1 1/4mi in a 12 horse field -- not bad. Is there anyone here that doesn't think the first 4 finishers in the PC doesn't win the Woodward by daylight????????

i don't.