Macho Again

[Bobby Fischer]

keeneland poly, Turfway poly, and SA pro-ride aren't near the same surface.

there really isn't anything to learn about Macho Again(and SA pro-ride) from his previous synthetic tries.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

keeneland poly, Turfway poly, and SA pro-ride aren't near the same surface.

there really isn't anything to learn about Macho Again(and SA pro-ride) from his previous synthetic tries.

I'd be willing to bet he'd stink on that one too.

Everyone acts like each rubber track is so different, when in reality they are all pretty similar. Sure, they are a little different, and depending on maintenance they can change dramatically, but you don't see a lot of horses running vastly different from one synthetic to another.

[RockHardTen1985]

I think Macho Again is horrible.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think Macho Again is horrible.

He's a solid 102-108ish Beyer horse... in today's world, that's good. The days of the 115 Beyer handicap division are gonesville.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

He's a solid 102-108ish Beyer horse... in today's world, that's good. The days of the 115 Beyer handicap division are gonesville.

I dont know Travis. I just dont see it, its like he falls into those numbers. He gets a pefect setup in The Whitney and clunks for second. I actually just watched the replay, he is making up no ground on Bullsbay. Then in the Woodward he is supposed to blow her away, and he just hangs. Maybe I dont give him any credit, but I think a handfull of the 3 yr olds are better as well as fillies like Zenyatta and Icon Project.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont know Travis. I just dont see it, its like he falls into those numbers. He gets a pefect setup in The Whitney and clunks for second. I actually just watched the replay, he is making up no ground on Bullsbay. Then in the Woodward he is supposed to blow her away, and he just hangs. Maybe I dont give him any credit, but I think a handfull of the 3 yr olds are better as well as fillies like Zenyatta and Icon Project.

I'm not saying he's Cigar Jr., but he's not a bum. He always run his race and sometimes it'll get him there. I guess my point was in today's racing game, the days of Ghostzapper are few, far and gone.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm not saying he's Cigar Jr., but he's not a bum. He always run his race and sometimes it'll get him there. I guess my point was in today's racing game, the days of Ghostzapper are few, far and gone.

I agree he's a honest horse, he will never be mentioned in the same breath as RA nor should he be mentioned in the same breath as a Dollar Bill. He lies somewhere in between.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

The days of the 115 Beyer handicap division are gonesville.

Just because they've been missing for 2 or 3 years certainly doesn't mean that they are gone.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Just because they've been missing for 2 or 3 years certainly doesn't mean that they are gone.

On polytrack?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by CSC

On polytrack?

Why not?

Richard's Kid got a 107 Beyer in the Pac Classic ... and Song of Navarone and Awesome Gem got 102's for running 6th and 7th.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

He's a solid 102-108ish Beyer horse... in today's world, that's good. The days of the 115 Beyer handicap division are gonesville.

If Poly figures are still being rated on the low side, I would agree. However they have been supposedly adjusted...

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'd be willing to bet he'd stink on that one too.

Everyone acts like each rubber track is so different, when in reality they are all pretty similar. Sure, they are a little different, and depending on maintenance they can change dramatically, but you don't see a lot of horses running vastly different from one synthetic to another.

I doubt we are going to see Macho Again run vs Bullsbay, Commentator, Asiatic Boy and Co. (his company) on pro-ride @ Santa Anita, so this is pretty much a theoretical discussion.

If it is a factor, I will adjust a little to whatever bias I happen to see at the track at that time. Probably isn't fruitful for me to try to typecast the different synthetic tracks to whatever bias i happen to associate them with.