Horse of the Year

Cannon Shell · #1 09-05-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He said something like that on the MSG plus show. Donovan asked him, he responded with " it depends on how she coms out of this and if there was a spot worth running her" Im guessing that means, if Zenyatta comes and joins Icon Project in the Beldame.

He will stretch it out as long as he can. He doesnt get on tv crushing grapes. But I dont think we will see her again this year.

RockHardTen1985 · #2 09-05-2009, 07:48 PM

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He will stretch it out as long as he can. He doesnt get on tv crushing grapes. But I dont think we will see her again this year.

100% agree. What will her campaign be like next year?

Cannon Shell · #3 09-05-2009, 07:49 PM

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100% agree. What will her campaign be like next year?

mystery novel

DaTruth · #4 09-05-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

mystery novel

I don't think they can settle on beating up older fillies and mares after what she has done this year.

Since Steve will have her at Fair Grounds next year, she will make her bow in the Mineshaft on February 20, with her main early objective being the March 27 Dubai World Cup over the new Meydan course.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 09-05-2009, 08:14 PM

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I don't think they can settle on beating up older fillies and mares after what she has done this year.

Since Steve will have her at Fair Grounds next year, she will make her bow in the Mineshaft on February 20, with her main early objective being the March 27 Dubai World Cup over the new Meydan course.

DWC? I think they plan on keeping her off synthetics. Right?

Danzig · #6 09-07-2009, 05:54 PM

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I don't think they can settle on beating up older fillies and mares after what she has done this year.

Since Steve will have her at Fair Grounds next year, she will make her bow in the Mineshaft on February 20, with her main early objective being the March 27 Dubai World Cup over the new Meydan course.

dubai is a synthetic track, so i seriously doubt she shows up there.

i'd imagine they'll plan a campaign to culminate with the bc at churchill. maybe the met mile along the way? that would be sweet. but i'm really hoping to see them bring her to oaklawn for the apple blossom.

as for HOY, i think she's got it wrapped up. she's run and won from fed thru september. all wins, with five gr 1's in a row, including two wins over colts and a win in open company. not just the first filly to ever win the woodward, but also the first 3 yo to win that race since holy bull in '94.

GPK · #7 09-05-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

mystery novel

Did she run as a 4 YO?

mbahadur · #8 09-05-2009, 10:00 PM

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100% agree. What will her campaign be like next year?

If she stays healthy, the BC Classic at Churchill. I think she would have trouble holding on at a mile and a quarter against better horses with the fractions she ran today.

mbahadur · #9 09-05-2009, 10:22 PM

If Zenyatta does not run against RA and beats Europe's best males in the BC Classic for her second BC win and to remain undefeated, I think she srill has a solid chance at HOY. I'm just not sure whether she will indeed win the BC Classic.

justindew · #10 09-05-2009, 10:40 PM

There are only two horses with a chance at Horse of the Year, and Zenyatta isn't one of them.

I'd say Rachel has it locked up, but what if Gio Ponti were to go undefeated the rest of the way? And what if he ran in and won the Breeders' Cup Classic? He didn't run badly in the Strub.

I'm just sayin'.

2Hot4TV · #11 09-06-2009, 12:27 AM

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If she stays healthy, the BC Classic at Churchill. I think she would have trouble holding on at a mile and a quarter against better horses with the fractions she ran today.

She doesn't want anything to do with a 1 1/4 against the horses she raced today.

Danzig · #12 09-07-2009, 06:04 PM

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She doesn't want anything to do with a 1 1/4 against the horses she raced today.

so, you don't suppose tactics would change for a longer race? nah, that can't be at all....

freddymo · #13 09-05-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He will stretch it out as long as he can. He doesnt get on tv crushing grapes. But I dont think we will see her again this year.

If Zenyatta comes to the Beldame Jess nor Rachel will disappoint. He needs the purse money to help pay the 7 not 8mil he bought her for!

Cannon Shell · #14 09-05-2009, 08:48 PM

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If Zenyatta comes to the Beldame Jess nor Rachel will disappoint. He needs the purse money to help pay the 7 not 8mil he bought her for!

There is a better shot of Rampillion winning the Arc than Zenyatta leaving CA.

freddymo · #15 09-05-2009, 08:56 PM

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There is a better shot of Rampillion winning the Arc than Zenyatta leaving CA.

If you keep dissing "the pill" you will have to deal with DTTide.

If Moss wants HOY he has to get thru Rachel in the Beldame and Sea the Stars potentially in the Classic.. If Zenyatta beats those two horse she will be the greatest mare ever. He desires her shot she hasn't lost yet.

Seriously what is the friggin Goodwood mean after Rachel's performance today?

Cannon Shell · #16 09-05-2009, 09:01 PM

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If you keep dissing "the pill" you will have to deal with DTTide.

If Moss wants HOY he has to get thru Rachel in the Beldame and Sea the Stars potentially in the Classic.. If Zenyatta beats those two horse she will be the greatest mare ever. He desires her shot she hasn't lost yet.

Seriously what is the friggin Goodwood mean after Rachel's performance today?

Why does anybody think that she had a shot at horse of the year after her last race and the fact that they refuse to think out of the box in any manner at all? It is hard to fathom any horse running now ever being the greatest anything ever. Maybe she can be the greatest synthetic filly ever? She should at least be running against the plug older horses out there if they want to be considered.

freddymo · #17 09-05-2009, 09:13 PM

If Rachel didn't win the Haskell and Woodward she had a shot if they won the Classic and was undefeated. Who cares about HOY anyway. Sherriffs needs to test the mare not for the public but for the connections. Why this guy is babying a 1300 pound 5 year old mare is beyond me. It's a tremendous disservice to the Moss's they deserve better and so does the mare.

Merlinsky · #18 09-05-2009, 09:29 PM

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If Rachel didn't win the Haskell and Woodward she had a shot if they won the Classic and was undefeated. Who cares about HOY anyway. Sherriffs needs to test the mare not for the public but for the connections. Why this guy is babying a 1300 pound 5 year old mare is beyond me. It's a tremendous disservice to the Moss's they deserve better and so does the mare.

I almost wish Z'd lost the last race by a little bit, and while that sounds blasphemous I'll tell you why, it's because it would get them out of their undefeated protective bubble. I think they're more about trying to do preservation than anything right now, not that it's not understandable. Are we certain she's going in the BC Classic or is everyone just assuming? I mean it's what I would do, but obviously I don't own a glorious mare like that. It's easy to tell someone else what to do with their horse.