Charlie Rangel

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you must not be up on history if you think he's the most crooked ever.

it's the internet. there is no middle ground. things are either the best ever or the worst. no context allowed. we only throw bombs.

plus, it's timm.

go argue with a stump if you think you'll get anywhere.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

it's the internet. there is no middle ground. things are either the best ever or the worst. no context allowed. we only throw bombs.

plus, it's timm.

go argue with a stump if you think you'll get anywhere.

Yeah,right!.....I'm gonna be pilloried by a guy with an enormus identity complex!
I said I'd take nominees........a)Teapot Dome scandal b) Watergate
c)Travelgate d)Duke Cunningham
chime in if you want...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Yeah,right!.....I'm gonna be pilloried by a guy with an enormus identity complex!
I said I'd take nominees........a)Teapot Dome scandal b) Watergate
c)Travelgate d)Duke Cunningham
chime in if you want...

you are aware that history covers the entire world, and thousands of years?

besides, you forgot the savings and loan debacle-john mccains name came up in that one. you also have local and state officials, such as jefferson from La who had money in the freezer and just got convicted on bribery charges. there are so many to chose from. now, if you wanted to say one of the more crooked of our time, no one would probably take issue with your statement. but since he's yet to even have any real investigation or charges, it's hard to say at this point that he's really done anything-that whole innocent til proven guilty thing. but then, with the senators getting sweet deals from countrywide getting off the hook.....you have to wonder just how good congress is at keeping its house in order.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you are aware that history covers the entire world, and thousands of years?

besides, you forgot the savings and loan debacle-john mccains name came up in that one. you also have local and state officials, such as jefferson from La who had money in the freezer and just got convicted on bribery charges. there are so many to chose from. now, if you wanted to say one of the more crooked of our time, no one would probably take issue with your statement. but since he's yet to even have any real investigation or charges, it's hard to say at this point that he's really done anything-that whole innocent til proven guilty thing. but then, with the senators getting sweet deals from countrywide getting off the hook.....you have to wonder just how good congress is at keeping its house in order.

not to quibble, but generally meant politicians in this country, and did I mention Pelosi blocking investigations?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

not to quibble, but generally meant politicians in this country, and did I mention Pelosi blocking investigations?

timmi, i think you'd be hard pressed to find that one political party is any more corrupt or loathe to investigate it's own than the other. you have a huge bias, which is probably why everyone tends to give you more of a hard time when you post in this room. no one group is purely good, while the other is purely evil.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

timmi, i think you'd be hard pressed to find that one political party is any more corrupt or loathe to investigate it's own than the other. you have a huge bias, which is probably why everyone tends to give you more of a hard time when you post in this room. no one group is purely good, while the other is purely evil.

Actually, whether I have a specific bias is irrelevent if the statements I say are true. Even Libs have their moments. All I did was point out the fact that
Rangel is still running part of govt(while the leader of House stalls any action)
I am unaware of any such Rep that has been given such leisure while charges continue to build against him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Actually, whether I have a specific bias is irrelevent if the statements I say are true. Even Libs have their moments. All I did was point out the fact that
Rangel is still running part of govt(while the leader of House stalls any action)
I am unaware of any such Rep that has been given such leisure while charges continue to build against him.

then you must not pay attention. as for your bias being irrelevant, i would disagree-you are stating as fact that both sides don't get treated the same, when in fact they do. they engage in these behaviors, and sometimes they get caught-they being POLS-regardless of party.