Question about ride on Brother Nick Sar7 8/21/09

The Indomitable DrugS · #1 08-29-2009, 04:14 PM

The weight was off of Salve Germania for at least 3 minutes before the start of the Balston Spa.

She got up to win at 24/1 odds.

Even if it wasn't the Lestor Piggot Arlington Million trick game plan.....if I was a trainer ... I would specifically instruct my jock to jump off for a few minutes every race for the rest of the meet.

ArlJim78 · #2 08-29-2009, 04:18 PM

i'm sure that three minutes made all the difference.

rpncaine · #3 08-29-2009, 04:22 PM

What can the Jock do?...Horse was all buzzed from his first time lasix.

Cannon Shell · #4 08-29-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rpncaine

What can the Jock do?...Horse was all buzzed from his first time lasix.

No Lasix

fpsoxfan · #5 08-30-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No Lasix

Oh yes there was. I guess it was announced at 10:30. Talking about it now on Trackfacts.
I guess there was also a late mention of bar shoes
on Our Edge.

The Indomitable DrugS · #6 08-29-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i'm sure that three minutes made all the difference.

I don't know if it did or didn't ... but I wouldn't pass up taking any little edge I can get .. no matter how subtle and extremely annoying.

Our turf horses are great ... a Euro with a 8-1-0-1 lifetime record coming off of a 4th in a listed race in Germany just overpowered a whole bunch of our fine Graded Stakes winners. A couple of them even Grade 1 winners on turf.

Cannon Shell · #7 08-29-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't know if it did or didn't ... but I wouldn't pass up taking any little edge I can get .. no matter how subtle and extremely annoying.

Our turf horses are great ... a Euro with a 8-1-0-1 lifetime record coming off of a 4th in a listed race in Germany just overpowered a whole bunch of our fine Graded Stakes winners. A couple of them even Grade 1 winners on turf.

It might make about an inch or two difference.

The Indomitable DrugS · #8 08-29-2009, 05:12 PM

an inch or two can be big. Would you not want it?

I remember the first Arlington Million ... Lestor Piggot was on a 1-for-12 longshot Euro filly named Madam Gay .. and he jumped off for about four minutes holding up the start while the horse seemed to be acting fine and with no appearnt equipment issues.

Cannon Shell · #9 08-29-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

an inch or two can be big. Would you not want it?

I remember the first Arlington Million ... Lestor Piggot was on a 1-for-12 longshot Euro filly named Madam Gay .. and he jumped off for about four minutes holding up the start while the horse seemed to be acting fine and with no appearnt equipment issues.

It is a stupid rule that needs to be changed. The safety of the horse and jock is often compromised and two or three minutes off doesnt mean a thing. If a horse had no rider for 10 minutes like the GP case that is a different story. Not to mention that the GP rule was a house rule, not a state rule and Saratoga/NY may not have such a rule.

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 08-29-2009, 06:23 PM

Piggot did it to try and gain an edge. It didn't work, his longshot filly was 3rd.

The horse today also ran off in the post parade - something that probably helped her on the big cut-back. Either that or our Graded Stakes turf horses are somehow even worse than I thought.

GPK · #11 08-29-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't know if it did or didn't ... but I wouldn't pass up taking any little edge I can get .. no matter how subtle and extremely annoying.

Our turf horses are great ... a Euro with a 8-1-0-1 lifetime record coming off of a 4th in a listed race in Germany just overpowered a whole bunch of our fine Graded Stakes winners. A couple of them even Grade 1 winners on turf.

They just don't make 'em like English Channel anymore....