Weekend Beyers..

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I've got trip notes for every single day of Saratoga this meet. I don't have a single day - not one - where either a pro speed or anti speed bias occured.

I don't play SAR seriously, so I don't keep any notes but I'm certain there was a speed/inside bias for a couple of days on the turf, sprinting, early in the meet.

[JDank34]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't play SAR seriously, so I don't keep any notes but I'm certain there was a speed/inside bias for a couple of days on the turf, sprinting, early in the meet.

As referenced by ME in another thread.....you again show your handicapping superiority to the rest of us....thank you Fat Man...thank you!

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by JDank34

As referenced by ME in another thread.....you again show your handicapping superiority to the rest of us....thank you Fat Man...thank you!

I need a translation.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't play SAR seriously, so I don't keep any notes but I'm certain there was a speed/inside bias for a couple of days on the turf, sprinting, early in the meet.

Yeah dude, every Tuesday you could not win if you were off the rail. The rest of the week the rail got worse until the next Tuesday.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't play SAR seriously, so I don't keep any notes but I'm certain there was a speed/inside bias for a couple of days on the turf, sprinting, early in the meet.

You playing too many cutbacks in the turf sprints that couldn't get there?

I didn't notice a bias of any type on the grass, on opening week there were two turf sprints on Thursday, both were won off the pace. On Sunday there was a claimer that was won off the pace. Week 2 may have been different.

I thought the rail sucked while the track was re-drying out during the first half of Sunday and that contributed to Ea not being able to get by that slowpoke Pitched Perfectly. Of course, Heavenly Landing won up the inside in the 7th but by that point the sun had peeked out a bit and it was done drying for the most part.

NT

[the_fat_man]

Here's what a quick check of the 1st part of the meet reveals. I hadn't looked at this data earlier and my initial comment related to 8/05, where, visually, it appears that there's a speed bias.

7/29 --- no TS
7/30 --- 2 TS --- no wire jobs
7/31 -- no turf

8/01 -- no TS
8/02 -- 1 TS -- no wire
8/03 -- no TS

8/05 --- 2 TS -- 2 wire jobs
8/06 -- 2 TS --- 1 wire job
8/07 -- 1 TS -- no wire job
8/08 -- 2 TS -- no wire job
8/09 -- 2 TS -- 2 wire jobs
8/10 -- 1 TS -- 1 wire job


So, out of 13 turf sprints over 8 days, there were 6 wire jobs. 2 each (out of 2 races) on 8/05 and 8/09; and the other 2 on the subsequent day.

While the number of wire jobs in relation to total turf sprints doesn't appear telling, I think the fact that they're clustered (3 out of 4; and 3 out of 3) does.

Anyone willing to take this further is welcome to.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You playing too many cutbacks in the turf sprints that couldn't get there?

I didn't notice a bias of any type on the grass, on opening week there were two turf sprints on Thursday, both were won off the pace. On Sunday there was a claimer that was won off the pace. Week 2 may have been different.



NT

The turf sprints up there are always funky. I can pick out when something is happening by how horses moving on the turn seem be get caught in a riptide when they hit the stretch. Notice Citifest, for example, who came back to win after having no shot in the biased events of 8/05.

Yeah, my cutbacks aren't getting there the same way that Rail Trip is a MILER and Straight Story is not only going to beat Battle of Hastings with a better trip but he's also, arguably the best 3 year old turfer in the country.