Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 08-22-2009, 09:17 PM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Is she competition for Rachel, I think she might be.
Only if Hal Wiggins got to train her.. 2.03 your kidding right Rachel would beat her by a a country mile
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-23-2009, 12:15 AM
chucklestheclown chucklestheclown is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,562
Default

She is no nashoba's key, let alone ra.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-23-2009, 09:31 AM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
She is no nashoba's key, let alone ra.

Nashoba's Key was a filly I never appreciated. Perhaps I am wrong, I never thought she was all that special if special at all.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-23-2009, 09:38 AM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freddymo
Only if Hal Wiggins got to train her.. 2.03 your kidding right Rachel would beat her by a a country mile
On the surface the final time was good/ordinary but the track went from muddy to good later in the day, I think this is a case when you have to use your common sense to evaluate if a performance was good or wasn't.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 08-23-2009, 09:41 AM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
On the surface the final time was good/ordinary but the track went from muddy to good later in the day, I think this is a case when you have to use your common sense to evaluate if a performance was good or wasn't.

I agree the race was very very impressive even if she beat vermin. Don't know the BSF but I would have to imagine its between a 104 and 108?
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 08-23-2009, 10:32 AM
NTamm1215 NTamm1215 is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freddymo
I agree the race was very very impressive even if she beat vermin. Don't know the BSF but I would have to imagine its between a 104 and 108?
She got a 103.

NT
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08-23-2009, 10:51 AM
Coach Pants
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
She got a 103.

NT
The rest of the Alabama field should be sent to barrier trials for eternity.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-23-2009, 07:33 PM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,614
Default

She ran her final quarter in about 25 4/5 and still drew off. None of the other runners ran under 27 for the last quarter. It was a good race, slightly above average, that was made to look much better than it was because of the level of competition.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-23-2009, 08:21 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
She got a 103.

NT

Does this number seem right to you?
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-25-2009, 07:45 AM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default

It ended up being a 106, paired up with 103 from Delaware, she looks like the real deal.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 08-25-2009, 07:09 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

She also went pretty darn quick early for that distance at Saratoga. She is the real deal.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 08-25-2009, 08:39 PM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles
She also went pretty darn quick early for that distance at Saratoga. She is the real deal.

What do you make of the last few furlongs?
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 08-25-2009, 08:42 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

She's just lucky a real star like Pine Island wasn't in there to grind her down.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 08-25-2009, 09:08 PM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
She's just lucky a real star like Pine Island wasn't in there to grind her down.
Pine Island would have thrived on Poly.. BTW Fat Burger she was an ugly a mover as any.. She moved like a 1400 back loader.. Yet she ran down most..
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 08-25-2009, 09:14 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

by most ... I assume you mean Teammate.

I don't know if Pine Island's footwork was good enough to make her a top poly horse ... but if she had a well slept Alan Gracia riding her .. anything is possible.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 08-25-2009, 10:39 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freddymo
What do you make of the last few furlongs?
I don't consider small parts of a race as having any meaning if they aren't viewed in context with the rest of the race.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.