Kent D.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Kasept

However you view the sample size, it's 50% of the universe you're going to end up with... It is what we have to work with.

Is finishing third a primary objective? If you're saying some of the thirds Lezcano had in the first half could become exacta finishes in the 2nd half, I wouldn't disagree.

Depends on the situation. Don't these numbers tend to support the belief that, if Desormeaux can't win, he doesn't care where he finishes.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Depends on the situation. Don't these numbers tend to support the belief that, if Desormeaux can't win, he doesn't care where he finishes.

No.

[CSC]

Numbers mean little when 1-3 Jockies are getting the choice mounts, I've bet a limited number of CV horses this meet and can't say he is riding any better or any worse than Kent, Ramon, or Alan G. The difference are the mounts they are getting, I seriously doubt anyone of those 3 would have made the difference on a Allen Jerkins horse this meet to use him as an example.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No.

That perception has dogged him going all the way back to his ride on River Special in the 1992 Breeders' Cup. Are you suggesting it's a bum wrap?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

You said "Don't these numbers tend to support the belief that, if Desormeaux can't win, he doesn't care where he finishes."


Like I said before, those numbers are like a squirt of piss in a very large bucket.

Last year, Desormeaux had more 3rds than wins or seconds at Saratoga. Same in 2006.


As far as if it's a bum wrap or not .. I don't know. I think Desormeaux rolls the dice a hell of a lot more than other jockeys. He takes a lot chances that might slightly improve his chances of winning ... but also might backfire and blow up in his face.

Take a look at his ride on Hold Me Back in the Derby or Summer Bird in the Haskell among so many .. if he rode his race on those horses - he had to feel like he had zero shot of winning.

For this decade ... Desormeaux is 604-97-75-81 with a $2.09 ROI in all rides at Saratoga.

A 4.5% percent profit .. but from only just over 600 rides. 600 races is still a very small number for a sample size ... Scav probably bets on that many races in a Mountain Dew fueled busy week of betting.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You said "Don't these numbers tend to support the belief that, if Desormeaux can't win, he doesn't care where he finishes."


Like I said before, those numbers are like a squirt of piss in a very large bucket.

Last year, Desormeaux had more 3rds than wins or seconds at Saratoga. Same in 2006.


As far as if it's a bum wrap or not .. I don't know. I think Desormeaux rolls the dice a hell of a lot more than other jockeys. He takes a lot chances that might slightly improve his chances of winning ... but also might backfire and blow up in his face.
Take a look at his ride on Hold Me Back in the Derby or Summer Bird in the Haskell among so many .. if he rode his race on those horses - he had to feel like he had zero shot of winning.

For this decade ... Desormeaux is 604-97-75-81 with a $2.09 ROI in all rides at Saratoga.

A 4.5% percent profit .. but from only just over 600 rides. 600 races is still a very small number for a sample size ... Scav probably bets on that many races in a Mountain Dew fueled busy week of betting.

That is so true based on our own personal experiences with him.