Who thinks...

just saw this am that oil in asia is down......there are a variety or reasons why oil is down--altho the funniest 'theory' is the upcoming election. if only the u.s. elections had that much influence on a world market.

demand is down, no storms, futures are trading lower due to a possible increase in the future in u.s. oil production...and of course isreal and lebanon are not killing each other at the moment. and then there's iran, they haven't yet thrown in the towel on working out some sort of agreement regarding their nuclear program.

but of course instead of thinking about why they're down, the easy thing is to point at the white house.
also, naive on their part to complain about the media not talking about oil being down, gas being down--why that would be considered good news, and no one pays money to read good news.

i like the writing of sowell, also george will. i also read maureen dowd until the ark paper quit carrying her. we have a gent down here, gene lyons, our far-left leaning writer for the editorial section, he gets them up in arms around here. read him too. i'll read just about anyone who doesn't stoop to the level of the caveman....you know--_____bad, ________good--regardless of what either is doing!

Originally Posted by Danzig2

i like the writing of sowell, also george will. i also read maureen dowd until the ark paper quit carrying her. we have a gent down here, gene lyons, our far-left leaning writer for the editorial section, he gets them up in arms around here. read him too. i'll read just about anyone who doesn't stoop to the level of the caveman....you know--_____bad, ________good--regardless of what either is doing!

Anyone with a computer and a modem ...

... has access to mountains of political commentary of all types. Restricting oneself to a hermetically-sealed environment is simply foolish.

Everyone should open up their horizons ... take in the full view ... and make informed decisions.

It's sad to see some youngsters ... here and elsewhere ... who have no idea that there are other points of view ... and other methods of analysis ... than the outright crap they've been fed in their youth by people with nefarious agendae.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Anyone with a computer and a modem ...

... has access to mountains of political commentary of all types. Restricting oneself to a hermetically-sealed environment is simply foolish.

Everyone should open up their horizons ... take in the full view ... and make informed decisions.

It's sad to see some youngsters ... here and elsewhere ... who have no idea that there are other points of view ... and other methods of analysis ... than the outright crap they've been fed in their youth by people with nefarious agendae.

For once, I agree with you. The ignorance of today's young people is appalling to me. The information is readily available to those who wish to read it and once it is researched, then and ONLY then, should a person be able to make a well informed decision. The problem lies in that most young people in today's society believe all of the bologna they see on tv.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Really now, I'm appaulled at the way a lot of people think, not just the young, but the old as well.

Of anyone on this board, pgardn makes the most sense in these matters. I will listen to him.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Really now, I'm appaulled at the way a lot of people think, not just the young, but the old as well.

Of anyone on this board, pgardn makes the most sense in these matters. I will listen to him.

Then continue to be close minded. I like to take in EVERYTHING and then make my own decision based upon the information I've come across. Some of the points you've brought up are valid, and some of them are not. Not everyone agrees with your opinions, but it doesn't make those people bad people. My point is this... don't hate something because you've been told to hate it. Hate something because you've researched it yourself and looked at all of the bases.

[Danzig]

well this whole thread has gone to waste.....

i think pgardn makes a lot of sense. but i'm not going to only go by what he says--that's not being open-minded. nor is it being open-minded if you read a lot of material, but it's all the same theme. read every point of view, every side, especially if it is opposite of what you viewed as truth. that's how you learn. you already know what YOU know. always more than one side to any issue.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Then continue to be close minded. I like to take in EVERYTHING and then make my own decision based upon the information I've come across. Some of the points you've brought up are valid, and some of them are not. Not everyone agrees with your opinions, but it doesn't make those people bad people. My point is this... don't hate something because you've been told to hate it. Hate something because you've researched it yourself and looked at all of the bases.

Well, that is how you and I differ Cajun. I don't hate anything in this world. Problems don't get solved by hating; they get solved by loving. That is one of the major problems with today's society. Everybody thinks that they have to hate someone because they differ from them in opinion. It is why this country is torn in half right now just as it was during Vietnam. I also think that it is ironic that you brought this up...

"Not everyone agrees with your opinions, but it doesn't make those people bad people."

You haven't contributed anything to this tread other than personally criticizing me. I haven't personally attacked anyone on this thread although others have called me hopeless and close-minded and a "liberalist" in very derogatory ways. Well, it isn't your fault that you called me close-minded. American society has taught us to personally attack and criticize those who have opposing views. The capitalist econonmy also contributes to this because it makes us very competitive in which the more competitive succeed, and often succeed by criticizing the others and calling them stupid...kind of like the Democrats and the Republicans do.

While others have made valid points, some are extremely biased, and pgardn presented the facts in a very unbiased way. You are way off based if you think that I am close minded because that is very far from the truth, and just your opinion. Just for the record, I am neither a liberal, conserv., Dem., or Repub.

The fact is that I have researched these topics extensively and this is where I stand. I have even got expert facts, not from the news, but from an astute political scientist.

Whoever thought that I didn't know that the gas prices were going down because the price of barrels of oil were going down...well, let's just say I know a lot more than you think that I do. We get most of our oil from OPEC, which is basically Saudi Arabia. A good argument can be made that the leaders of Saudi Arabia have been doing the same thing that the leaders of Iraq are doing, yet we went to war with one and are allies with another. It is also an important fact, that two leaders in the White House, Bush and Cheney, are oilmen. This is quite a dilemma especially because Cheney was put in charge of this country's energy programs. When Cheney went to Saudi Arabia, he received wild applause. Dalankani was right when he said that the US government didn't/couldn't affect oil prices directly, but did/could indirectly. Also, Bush said that gas prices would go down in the fall of this year anyway because he was going to wait and get through the summer before he turned to our oil reserves. There is little doubt that there was a political agenda behind this. However, instead of using our oil reserves, OPEC is now saying that they miscalculated the amount of oil that Americans were going to consume this year, and that is why the prices of barrels of oil have come down. They also said that they now have competitors. However, earlier in the year, experts said that we wouldn't be seeing a long-term decrease in gas prices for two or three years. With all of this information presented, I will guarantee that both the oil prices and consequently the gas prices will rise again after the elections. Now this may/may not be a cause of the Bush administration. I was just pointing out the facts of the situation and my opinion that gas prices would most likely rise. It is a sensible prediction whether I am right or wrong. I'll leave on this note, money and the power of a limited number of individuals rule the world.

[timmgirvan]

Gator: Jessica has an astute advisor, who has broadened her horizons, and warned about people with different opinions. Her reaction is typical, young, thin-skinned, extemporaneous facts and suppostions undoubtedly clouded by no 'real world' experience to guage the merits of the discussion. No prob... she'll learn..hopefully

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Gator: Jessica has an astute advisor, who has broadened her horizons, and warned about people with different opinions. Her reaction is typical, young, thin-skinned, extemporaneous facts and suppostions undoubtedly clouded by no 'real world' experience to guage the merits of the discussion. No prob... she'll learn..hopefully

Sorry, but the personal attacks won't make me shutup or go away. It's called integrity, and nope I haven't been warned about people with different opinions, but I do know that when I start presenting them with facts and they start personally attacking, that I am winning the argument. Thin-skinned...I don't think so. Am I acting like I'm thin-skinned? No, if I was thin-skinned I would have given up a long time ago. No real world experience...let's just say that my own mother has said that I have had a tough enough life for three or four people. Some here know what I am going through, and some of the things that I have gone through. Many would have fallen into extreme depression, but I keep plugging away. I live in the real world and am not naive. You know nothing about me.