Nice case of PAST POSTING at AP: R1

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm watching the odds carefully, as I have a conditional wager on the 1, Classical Recital; looking to get 15:1 at ZERO minutes to post.

She never makes it: at 0 to post she's 14 to 1, then goes to 15:1 before they load. As they're in the gate, the screen shows 13:1, and it does so as well in the run to the 1st turn.

By the time she gets to the turn, just as one of the other duelers bears out, she's 8:1.

Fair game.

BTW, she finished off the board.

We keep hitting on this subject and debating how long it should take to accumulate all the wagers from the many different sources.
Do you think large conditional wagers could be a part of late changes? It would seem the heavy hitters would use this feature a lot, especially on favorites.
I'm not familiar with how this actually plays out, perhaps you could give us a tutorial and estimate how much longer this might add to the final tote.

[herkhorse]

Just curious -If you believe in all this past post stuff, why play conditional wagers at all? As it is there is usually at least a few minutes from "0" minutes to post to the time they are actually "off", so it's rarely accurate anyway, and that's before any alleged past posting.

[chucklestheclown]

A couple weeks ago I went to my stand-by teller at 2MTP and he told me "It's closed." I look at the screen and they aren't even done loading. So for at least some big races the AP OTBs shut you out EARLY.

[golfer]

The 7 horse, Enriched, was 3-1 as they entered the gate, 3-1 during the race, won and paid off at 7-2 ($9.60).

Just pointing out that the odds can go up.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by golfer

Just pointing out that the odds can go up.

You'll definitely appreciate today's 4th at AP, then. #2, Rochester Cat, is 9:2 as they load the last horse into the gate. He breaks dueling with the 1 and drops to 4:1 when they post the 1st flash. Just after the qtr split, when he's in a nice stalking position, the odds drop to 7:2 (where they remain). Seems to me, someone was allowed/decided to hammer him when they saw that nice stalking position.

He didn't win but this points to past posting to me.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

You'll definitely appreciate today's 4th at AP, then. #2, Rochester Cat, is 9:2 as they load the last horse into the gate. He breaks dueling with the 1 and drops to 4:1 when they post the 1st flash. Just after the qtr split, when he's in a nice stalking position, the odds drop to 7:2 (where they remain). Seems to me, someone was allowed/decided to hammer him when they saw that nice stalking position.

He didn't win but this points to past posting to me.

I did notice that. I bet the 2, BEFORE the race started.