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Old 08-16-2009, 01:06 PM
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The current program is flawed, and Obama's plan (actually "he" doesn't have a plan, the House and the Senate are making up the plans, which is the source of much of the problem) - will make everything much better.

The House plans and Senate plan will be merged in Committee. That's "bipartisanship".

You'll notice that Obama wanted bipartisanship in working out the plans from the start, and the GOP pretty much came up with "don't do anything!" and "death panels". Thanks, guys, great input!

There has been inaction on health care for decades - now is the time to finally get something done.

The program not only will not be a drain on our economy, it will raise healthcare standards and care in our country overall. Small business will benefit with a reduction of monies they must spend on healthcare, or enable them to provide healthcare if they do not now.

The middle class will have ever greater options, and greater coverage, at lower cost.


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perhaps it's you that should read the details-or are you just not bothering to read what the CBO has put out?

as for inaction, presidents beginning with teddy roosevelt have attempted to do something. problem is, the issues are more wide-ranging then just providing health care-it's that our fed is trying to be everything to everyone, and we don't have the money.
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Old 08-16-2009, 01:11 PM
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perhaps it's you that should read the details-or are you just not bothering to read what the CBO has put out?

as for inaction, presidents beginning with teddy roosevelt have attempted to do something. problem is, the issues are more wide-ranging then just providing health care-it's that our fed is trying to be everything to everyone, and we don't have the money.
I am well aware of the details, I've watched all three Town Hall meetings this past week, I've read all that Fox and WSJ etc. have said on the other side, and I'm going by what the CBO has said last week.

Regarding other issues, yes, they are more wide-ranging than health care. But health care is on the table now, and everyone associated with it - including Obama - have said they will not sign off on it if it adds to the deficit (if it cannot be self-funding)
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Old 08-16-2009, 01:13 PM
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I am well aware of the details, I've watched all three Town Hall meetings this past week, I've read all that Fox and WSJ etc. have said on the other side, and I'm going by what the CBO has said last week.

Regarding other issues, yes, they are more wide-ranging than health care. But health care is on the table now, and everyone associated with it - including Obama - have said they will not sign off on it if it adds to the deficit (if it cannot be self-funding)

then they are wasting their time, and ours, as it will add to the deficit.
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Old 08-16-2009, 05:52 PM
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I am well aware of the details, I've watched all three Town Hall meetings this past week, I've read all that Fox and WSJ etc. have said on the other side, and I'm going by what the CBO has said last week.

Regarding other issues, yes, they are more wide-ranging than health care. But health care is on the table now, and everyone associated with it - including Obama - have said they will not sign off on it if it adds to the deficit (if it cannot be self-funding)
All Obama's hand picked town hall meetings.

The thought that this will be self funding is so laughable that I can not believe anyone believes that. They know it cant be but once they have it in place , you know what happens. A massive govt program that pays for itself. Yeah sure.
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