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Old 08-14-2009, 03:47 PM
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I would rather watch horses like Bernardini and I know what your saying, but the serious gambler loves how it is now.
I don't know what the threshold is that determines who is a serious gambler and who isn't but I play a pretty good amount. I don't care for how it is now. As I said earlier, if I go to the track to play the races at Saratoga, there are usually 8-10 other races besides the stakes race. Plenty of opportunities to find value and make money. There are countless other races available to play via simulcasting. Making the stakes race a competitive event full of mediocre horses is just adding one more race for them. I actually think it's better having a dominant horse in those races as it offers an opportunity for multi-race ticket players to go light in a race and spread more in others.
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:50 PM
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I don't know what the threshold is that determines who is a serious gambler and who isn't but I play a pretty good amount. I don't care for how it is now. As I said earlier, if I go to the track to play the races at Saratoga, there are usually 8-10 other races besides the stakes race. Plenty of opportunities to find value and make money. There are countless other races available to play via simulcasting. Making the stakes race a competitive event full of mediocre horses is just adding one more race for them. I actually think it's better having a dominant horse in those races as it offers an opportunity for multi-race ticket players to go light in a race and spread more in others.

Good points, I guess it can go both ways.
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:53 PM
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Field size trumps quality unless you're talking about the cream of the crop. Big races handle big money regardless of the field.
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Old 08-14-2009, 04:36 PM
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fan-favorites trump all.

Commentator running with other average horses is about as good as it gets betting wise.


And from an entertainment perspective yea it is boring as hell to watch a Rachel or Bernardini beat up on overmatched rivals, at least after their initial break out race in situations where you know they are easily best going in. Hopefully you have three equally matched grade 3 or better caliber horses that each get to make their run, but that is rare for most graded stakes.
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:01 PM
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Thanks for the compliments everyone. For some reason the fractions came out as "_" when they put it online.
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:12 PM
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Great read. You definitely have a future in the business. Will add you to my list to track. keep up the good work!!
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:53 PM
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Good article, agree with all. Bullsbay had a better shot than 18-1 in that race.
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Old 08-14-2009, 06:50 PM
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This was a great article but I think this thread has gone astray. Why does it have to be an either/or proposition. There have been plenty of years where you had good horses and competitive betting races. Isn't that what we should be after?

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Old 08-15-2009, 08:18 AM
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Good article, agree with all. Bullsbay had a better shot than 18-1 in that race.
I thought the race was totally unbettable.

However, Jose Lezcano's ride on Smooth Air was one of the worst rides you'll ever see in a major race.

Bullsbay won the race with the dreamiest of dream trips ... and had Lezcano rode his typical smart race he would have been the one who inherited the dream trip. Instead he wanted to get pinballed in a 3 way pace battle - with two other faster horses - through very solid fractions.
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:42 AM
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Thanks for the compliments everyone. For some reason the fractions came out as "_" when they put it online.
Congrats Hockey.
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:23 AM
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I read this title and I thought it was going to be an obituary.

Great article!!
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:35 AM
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I read this title and I thought it was going to be an obituary.

Great article!!
I have to admit that it was the first thing to cross my mind too.

Pleasantly surprised....
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:44 AM
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I read this title and I thought it was going to be an obituary.

Great article!!
DAM, SORRY.
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