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Old 08-11-2009, 07:39 AM
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dell you're not going to convince anyone that this isn't bush's fault because people just like to keep on the blinders ..... jeb will be ready in '12



one pol is no different/better than another. besides, the House needs a good cleaning out (and so does the senate)...
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:48 PM
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Appears Cash for Clunkers was 13 times more important than border security

In this administation's eyes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090812/...l_guard_border
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:54 PM
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Appears Cash for Clunkers was 13 times more important than border security

In this administation's eyes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090812/...l_guard_border
Another effort to distract attention away from a successful program. Is there going to be a 3rd?
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:00 PM
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Another effort to distract attention away from a successful program. Is there going to be a 3rd?
If this program somehow used money that could have been used for border security or some other more deserving program does that effect its success? Or is border security no longer a concern?
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:44 PM
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If this program somehow used money that could have been used for border security or some other more deserving program does that effect its success? Or is border security no longer a concern?
Border Security is very important. It doesn't mean that the CFC should of been abandoned to pay for it. This constant distortion, distraction, use of non sequiturs etc. is entertaining, but it's not as convincing as you'd like to think. Really, it just means you have some Turkish-Type aspects to your personality.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:00 PM
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Another effort to distract attention away from a successful program. Is there going to be a 3rd?
How is this successful?
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:24 AM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32398464/ns/politics/


Just how many consumers used the federal rebates to buy these larger, not-so-green vehicles is unclear. The Obama administration has declined so far to release detailed records of purchases under the program being compiled by the Transportation Department, listing every clunker deal requesting rebates.

Buyers must have trade-ins that qualify for such deals — comparable vehicle types with at least 2 mpg less in fuel efficiency than the new purchase. And the new vehicle can't cost more than $45,000.

Even a high-end 2009 BMW X3 crossover utility vehicle, priced at just under $40,000, counts as a gas saver eligible under the government program, with 19 mpg.




"The Cash for Clunkers is definitely generating traffic for Cadillac and Hummer," Ledesma said.


i think it's too soon to say that a program costing 3 billion is a success. i also think the mpg requirements should have been far more stringent than just 2 mpg earned.
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