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Old 08-09-2009, 09:34 PM
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She made up 4.5 lengths on Anabaa's Creation through the final 2.5 furlongs.

People don't realize that the paces always appear slow going 8.5 furlongs at Del Mar.

Yesterday Alw Race: 24.82 49.62 1:14.13 1:38.17 1:44.36

Zenyatta Race: 23.86 48.84 1:13.64 1:37.28 1:43.24


Alw race first quarter: 24.82 - Alw race final 6.5fs: 1:19.54

Zen race first quarter: 23.86 - Zen race final 6.5fs: 1:19.38
Who cares about the final 6.5? What is the final 2.5, that is what I would look at? If its less then 30 its flying.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:39 PM
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anyone hoping for her to go vs males next out off another crusher vs her own sex can forget it. no way they take on males now, when she barely eked out a win at equal weights today. and yes, i know what the pace was early. they want her to go out perfect, so i doubt they take on any challenges at this point as is their right. she's a nice horse for sure, and has been fun to watch.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:52 PM
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anyone hoping for her to go vs males next out off another crusher vs her own sex can forget it. no way they take on males now, when she barely eked out a win at equal weights today. and yes, i know what the pace was early. they want her to go out perfect, so i doubt they take on any challenges at this point as is their right. she's a nice horse for sure, and has been fun to watch.
Dream on girl they have to take on the males next or retire her now instead of after the Breeders Cup.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:59 PM
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Dream on girl they have to take on the males next or retire her now instead of after the Breeders Cup.

how so? they don't 'have' to do a damn thing with her.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:41 PM
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Who cares about the final 6.5? What is the final 2.5, that is what I would look at? If its less then 30 its flying.
Nashoba's Key won this race 2 years ago closing from dead last into fractions of 25.93 - 51.07 - 1:16.37 ... but that was back when it was really polycrap.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:03 PM
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Nashoba's Key won this race 2 years ago closing from dead last into fractions of 25.93 - 51.07 - 1:16.37 ... but that was back when it was really polycrap.
Two years ago the surface was a total joke........its only a joke this year. Its actually playing more fair than Santa Anita last winter.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:04 PM
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Nashoba's Key won this race 2 years ago closing from dead last into fractions of 25.93 - 51.07 - 1:16.37 ... but that was back when it was really polycrap.
Here are the charts for the last 3 runnings.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:08 PM
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Too bad Hallowed Dreams didn't race in modern day SoCal--she'd be one of the all-time greats.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:10 PM
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Here are the charts for the last 3 runnings.
thats funny, NK'S win is very comparable to this afternoon
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:19 PM
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thats funny, NK'S win is very comparable to this afternoon
Nashoba's Key was 4 for 4 on synthetics with all major wins.





Remember all the grief I got for saying Zenyatta was better than her?
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:22 PM
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Nashoba's Key was 4 for 4 on synthetics with all major wins.





Remember all the grief I got for saying Zenyatta was better than her?
who's the best horse she beat when winning, dawn after dawn?
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:31 PM
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who's the best horse she beat when winning, dawn after dawn?
Nashoba's Key? ...Yeah, she beat such greats as the synthetic track version of Hystericalady and Zenyatta's multiple Grade 1 winning half sis Balance.

Zenyatta hasn't beat anything to get excited about.

The horse who was 2nd in last years Breeders Cup Distaff was Coco Beach and Music Note was 3rd. They're looking awfully bad now.

Life Is Sweet ran one prior time on polytrack prior to today .. and she was off the board in an ugly Ashland won by the great Little Belle.

But I know, Zenyatta has that dirt win with Brownie Points running 2nd.

The quality of opposition defeated card is not going to score you a ton of points with Zenyatta.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:26 PM
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Nashoba's Key was 4 for 4 on synthetics with all major wins.





Remember all the grief I got for saying Zenyatta was better than her?
Notice how the horse ships out of SoCal to Monmouth and loses.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:28 PM
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Notice how the horse ships out to Monmouth and loses.
Just like the whitney winner, see how he ran up the track out west against a real horse in rail trip

we can play that game all day if you like
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:29 PM
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Notice how the horse ships out of SoCal to Monmouth and loses.

I bet against her but dont take to much away from her for losing the track was a friggin cranbury bog and certainly she had never even set foot on such a swamp
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:48 AM
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Notice how the horse ships out of SoCal to Monmouth and loses.
Please, that lose wasn't because of better horses
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:13 PM
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Here are the charts for the last 3 runnings.
Everytime I look at them .. I think the last place finisher was a runaway winner at first glance.
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Old 08-09-2009, 10:40 PM
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Everytime I look at them .. I think the last place finisher was a runaway winner at first glance.
She's run a wipe-out in EVERY one of her races EXCEPT 2: today's race and the Milady this May. (This doesn't include the dirt race.) I suppose that there might be a race or two where the chartmaker is wrong and some other horse is gaining trivially the last split but this is pretty amazing. I don't have back charts for comparsion but I suppose Personal Ensign was probably the only other horse to dictate the type of race that was going to be run EVERY time she got out there.
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