The sad cost of war

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

So...Obama is to blame for this? As I always ask anyone who is blaming Obama...please..what would you be doing differently? Details Deb, AJ, Cannon, Dell...Nothing? No Stimulus? No bailouts? No cash for clunkers?

Wait..I know...tax cuts....strip all funded programs, let the rich pay less and hope that Reagan's pipe dream actually works:zz:

i'm not one to say that the exact opposite is the correct way. what i am saying is that things are certainly far from rosey, and that now is not the time to be spending billions more dollars we don't have than we are already spending. if the deficit is the huge problem many feel it is, how can growing that deficit be the answer?

obama is another politician. no more, no less. you won't see me on here cheerleading for any party. to me they are both the same, out for themselves and what keeps them in power. and no, no cash for clunkers-how ridiculous. as for the banks, that was years in the making, and should never have been allowed to occur. the war in iraq wouldn't have happened either-these are rhetorical questions, right? so i can turn back time?


edit-and no, i don't think obama is to blame for 'all this'. but i think he's ignoring what is really going on right now in his attempt to push this health care idea. this is not the right time for the govt to become larger. instead, he needs to end our two wars that are doing so much to drain our funds-that is our biggest expense, and is what took us from good times to bad. he's not to blame, our govt is. and right now, he's the leader of that govt. d.c. got us into this mess, they need to get us out. but i won't hold my breath.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but i think he's ignoring what is really going on right now in his attempt to push this health care idea. .

The Stimulus Package? The past six months (the first six months) of his administration? All that was talked about was the recession, and passing measures to get us out. Which appear to be working, and slowing-plateauing the recession as we speak.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Stimulus Package? The past six months (the first six months) of his administration? All that was talked about was the recession, and passing measures to get us out. Which appear to be working, and slowing-plateauing the recession as we speak.

i said 'in his attempt to push his health care'. what that has to do with the stimulus i don't know. but he is ignoring the deficit and the harm it does by attempting to increase govt spending. the health care plan he is proposing is incredily expensive, and won't cover the amount of americans he says it will. a very costly plan for a small percentage of coverage. there is more to the story than just the recession-the deficit is the single biggest thing affecting our economy, and he's growing it. did you see the CBO numbers on his budget, which includes his health care plan?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i said 'in his attempt to push his health care'. what that has to do with the stimulus i don't know. but he is ignoring the deficit and the harm it does by attempting to increase govt spending. did you see the CBO numbers on his budget, which includes his health care plan?

Okay, I thought you were saying he was ignoring the recession (not the deficit).

Yes, I saw the CBO numbers when they first came out (it was very well publicized) and I've seen alot of numbers since, and the one that seems to have been settled upon is 1 trillion over 10 years.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Okay, I thought you were saying he was ignoring the recession (not the deficit).

Yes, I saw the CBO numbers when they first came out (it was very well publicized) and I've seen alot of numbers since, and the one that seems to have been settled upon is 1 trillion over 10 years.

and his overall budget is tremendously bloated. he's not fixing anything with what he's proposed. those numbers don't lie either. and i saw yesterday that positive job growth isn't projected for four to five years, which is why the 'good week' is nothing for me to get excited about. continued declines, albeit smaller, isn't a good thing. it's still a downward trend-not a plateau.

Originally Posted by Riot

The Stimulus Package? The past six months (the first six months) of his administration? All that was talked about was the recession, and passing measures to get us out. Which appear to be working, and slowing-plateauing the recession as we speak.

LMAO