I Have a question (to the NYRA faithful)

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I couldn't leave you hanging. Wanted you to have at least one response in this lonely thread.

So here's my response............................














Stick to betting 3rd rate tracks like Woodbine and quit your constant whining. Change your diaper, get a new bib, buy a few new rattles for yourself..........do whatever needs to be done. Just quit crying already.

I think you need a "time out".

Saratoga is supposed to be the most prestigous meet in the USA. I think TFM has a point here. The real pathetic card is FRIDAYS. It is easily the worst card I have ever saw at Saratoga. I go both ways on this, I wont complain like some people I will just play other tracks, but that does not mean TFM is wrong.... Thursday's card was ok at best, Fridays is pathetic and Saturdays besides the 3 stakes races is horrible.

Things do get better on Sunday.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Saratoga is supposed to be the most prestigous meet in the USA. I think TFM has a point here. The real pathetic card is FRIDAYS. It is easily the worst card I have ever saw at Saratoga. I go both ways on this, I wont complain like some people I will just play other tracks, but that does not mean TFM is wrong.... Thursday's card was ok at best, Fridays is pathetic and Saturdays besides the 3 stakes races is horrible.

Things do get better on Sunday.

Fman is misguided on one fact, Saratoga's opening 2 weeks has yielded some terrific racing filled with excellent prices, as for his point regarding Woodbine he is however correct.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by CSC

Fman is misguided on one fact, Saratoga's opening 2 weeks has yielded some terrific racing filled with excellent prices, as for his point regarding Woodbine he is however correct.

The bottom line is the overall racing at Saratoga from Today-Saturday is really bad. Friday really ruins it. I agree with him on todays card. I wont comment on Woodbine. I think the problem is people dont like how he says it. The cards today, Friday and most of Saturday simply SUCK. He is right about that, now if he says "Sunday sucks", then he's 100% wrong.

Sunday is loaded.

[NTamm1215]

I guess to each their own but the steady stream of full fields work out fine for me. What is so bad about Friday's card? The John's Call is one of the most competitive races they've had all meet. The opener is going to be a barn burner through the opening six furlongs. So there are two maiden claimers, big deal, the MSW for 2YOs later on the card is strong.

Horseplayers will b.itch about anything, that's an ironclad fact but if you're someone who likes big, competitive fields then the quality at Saratoga has been there since Day 1 of this meet.

I can't believe we're making a real comparison to Woodbine, who cards multiple 5-6 horse races on a daily basis. Look at the opening six races on Saturday at Woodbine...wow.

By the way, those purses at Woodbine are huge, but that's Canadian dollars. The exchange rate right now is about $.93 to the dollar.

NT

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I can't believe we're making a real comparison to Woodbine, who cards multiple 5-6 horse races on a daily basis. Look at the opening six races on Saturday at Woodbine...wow.

I don't get the fascination with large fields. Last thing I need is to handicap 12-14 horse races. Why would anyone want to spend so much time on a race? Give me smaller field races. It's typically immediately clear who the speed is, and who the contenders are. Handicapping a race should be a 5 minute thing. And playing the game should be about finding advantages. This typically means playing multiple tracks.
Either you have an opinion or you don't. When I play small field races, I can identify a standout and a 1 or 2 number exotic. I realize that playing multiple numbers is some kind of rite of passage here but for me, it's just a sign of not having an opinion.

I'm disappointed, however. There's a ton of money to be made at other tracks/surfaces and I just can't understand why there's such a resistance to playing them.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't get the fascination with large fields. Last thing I need is to handicap 12-14 horse races. Why would anyone want to spend so much time on a race? Give me smaller field races. It's typically immediately clear who the speed is, and who the contenders are. Handicapping a race should be a 5 minute thing. And playing the game should be about finding advantages. This typically means playing multiple tracks.
Either you have an opinion or you don't. When I play small field races, I can identify a standout and a 1 or 2 number exotic. I realize that playing multiple numbers is some kind of rite of passage here but for me, it's just a sign of not having an opinion.

I'm disappointed, however. There's a ton of money to be made at other tracks/surfaces and I just can't understand why there's such a resistance to playing them.

Oh, I don't resist playing other tracks at all. In fact, I'll be at the local simulcast pitching away at Arlington this week and I think there's a mule I've been waiting for at Santa Rosa. What I don't get is the complaints about NYRA racing that are mostly flimsy.

NT

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't get the fascination with large fields. Last thing I need is to handicap 12-14 horse races. Why would anyone want to spend so much time on a race? Give me smaller field races. It's typically immediately clear who the speed is, and who the contenders are. Handicapping a race should be a 5 minute thing. And playing the game should be about finding advantages. This typically means playing multiple tracks.
Either you have an opinion or you don't. When I play small field races, I can identify a standout and a 1 or 2 number exotic. I realize that playing multiple numbers is some kind of rite of passage here but for me, it's just a sign of not having an opinion.

I'm disappointed, however. There's a ton of money to be made at other tracks/surfaces and I just can't understand why there's such a resistance to playing them.

Handicapping races should be a five minute thing? There's you're problem. You dont want to put the time into being a successful bettor.

What I dont seem to get is you blab about hitting 15-1 shots routinely....but then say you like to play 5-6 horse fields? Newsflash.....15-1 shots rarely win 6 horse fields.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't get the fascination with large fields. Last thing I need is to handicap 12-14 horse races. Why would anyone want to spend so much time on a race? Give me smaller field races. It's typically immediately clear who the speed is, and who the contenders are. Handicapping a race should be a 5 minute thing. And playing the game should be about finding advantages. This typically means playing multiple tracks.
Either you have an opinion or you don't. When I play small field races, I can identify a standout and a 1 or 2 number exotic. I realize that playing multiple numbers is some kind of rite of passage here but for me, it's just a sign of not having an opinion.

another "copy/paste/print/holepunch/binder" post for TFM

[2MinsToPost]

All I know is I drove 11 hours one way to take in some Saratoga. This past Weds I decided at the spur of the moment to pack my bags and drive up. Thursday afternoon around 2pm I arrived and settled in for the rest of the day at the track. Tired and spent, I got a great meal and a good nights rest. Friday (yesterday) I was at the track all day and in Horse Players heaven. I was not the least bit concerned about the cards either day. Just got home about an hour ago after a stop at Presque Isle Downs on the way home.

Was I upset they had some Maiden Claiming races? I'll answer it this way.
I will be making another trip to Saratoga before this meet is up. Flying or driving.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't get the fascination with large fields. Last thing I need is to handicap 12-14 horse races. Why would anyone want to spend so much time on a race? Give me smaller field races. It's typically immediately clear who the speed is, and who the contenders are. Handicapping a race should be a 5 minute thing. And playing the game should be about finding advantages. This typically means playing multiple tracks.
Either you have an opinion or you don't. When I play small field races, I can identify a standout and a 1 or 2 number exotic. I realize that playing multiple numbers is some kind of rite of passage here but for me, it's just a sign of not having an opinion.

I'm disappointed, however. There's a ton of money to be made at other tracks/surfaces and I just can't understand why there's such a resistance to playing them.

Oh my! This has to be considered for post of the year.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Oh my! This has to be considered for post of the year.

Thank you very much.